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Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:55:35 GMT

could you post me the link please? i cant find it

thanks

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:48:17 GMT

hey the pdf and doc versions are fully updated as of yesterday.

as far as dual cab/amps, yeah it uses up most of your DSP. I mainly go for distorted rhythm tones, which usually don't use lots of effects. If I want a patch that's going to use more than 1 or 2 effects other than EQ, I use a single amp patch. i definitely don't do the whole pedalboard type thing, where i can toggle effects on or off. my patches might have one effect per patch designed to be toggled, but most of the time they dont' have any.

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:51:40 GMT

thats a nice tip bro!!!

i think you are right the mid EQ is a must have!

I havent try the dual amp yet but i will try it... The only thing, that way use all DSP and you are not going to be able to add FX you know

Im also wonder when are you going to do another PDF update it... I have the old one you did but i checked your website and has more new and plenty staff... I think most of the people like me will you like to have it so can ready offline and like i said before it will be a good help from you...

if you can also give us new tips for the new update 2.0 on the same PDF that will be fantastic!

thanks

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:42:43 GMT

I agree about the mid focus at the end. that's a must-have.

For most of my tones, rather than try to EQ them where they need to be, i use a dual amp/cab setup. I use the same amp on both, but different cabs/mics. This helps get a great response across all frequencies with high signal-to-noise ratio. Then you don't need as many EQ effects - you can get by with just the amp EQ controls.

For single amp/cab patches, I tend to use a lot of Parametric EQ's. I may use one with a narrow (high) Q to suck out a nasty spot, or I may want a wide boost or cut, typically to accent or de-emphasize some part of the mids.

I also like to use EQ's in front the amp to fine-tune the distortion tone. I use the mid-focus EQ to trim mud and grit from the low and high-end respectively, and sometimes i boost with a Parametric EQ to make the distortion a little thicker, or fuzzier, or bitier.

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:06:23 GMT

Very cool, thanks. I'll load it up and give it a spin this weekend!

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:29:52 GMT

hey Bro! your guide had help me to understand most of the things in the Pod but honestly i love the way it sound with the mid eq at the end... to me sound like more full and just use the amp without any EQ!

what others Eq do you use personally? how do you combine them?

a good tip will not be bad for me!

Specially from someone like you with a lot of knowledge!

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:30:00 GMT

Hi Matt, I tweaked your patch. There's some significant changes I made but I left the basics the way you had them set up on as far as what footswitches do what. The reason for the changes is just basically because I have an idea of what works together for me when I'm trying to get a particular sound. So I switched to the Divide By 13 amp as the base and changed the ODs to the screamer and the classic distortion. You had the effects set up with pretty dramatic settings (at least how it sounded on my system) so I went for a little more subtle approach and I made a few changes there as well because I was going for certain sounds. You didn't have any reverb on your patch so I assumed you didn't need it and I swapped out the EQ you had at the end for a noise gate at the beginning. I have the Divide By 13 set for the clean but there is just an ever so tiny bit of hair on it.

FS1 = Digital Delay (formerly analog delay with mod - I just couldn't get it to sound sweet enough)

FS2 = Optical Tremolo (a lot like you had it some real minor tweaks)

FS3 = Analog Flange (formerly chorus, this was really dramatic I made the flange subtle but it really adds something whether you are clean or overdrive)

FS4 = blank

FS5 = Screamer (formerly Line 6 drive? The screamer works nice with this amp to give you a nice crunch kind of a Marshall sound)

FS6 = Classic Distortion (fornerly Line drive? This will give you kind of a dual rectifier tone for a heavier sound)

FS7 = Tube Comp (formerly Boost Comp, the tube comp actually works better as an over all boost you can use this to solo clean or either or both of the distortions)

FS8 = blank

EXP = Throaty Wah this just sounded the best to me with the rest of the settings

So as far as the boost goes I wasn't sure how much you need. You can dial it in on the tube comp "Level" parameter. There's a fair bit there, you may have to dial back but there's lots of room to go the other way.

There's great sounds to be had on all pick up positions even the coil tapped single coils. The delay is set for a nice solo sound but also works nice clean with or without the flange on either the middle postion humbucker or neck pickup coil tapped. The two distortions compliment each other and can be used together for even more gain. Anyway I'll let you experiment with it and see what you think. I'm just saying try every combination you can think of I was kind of going for lots of options from clean to blues to high gain.

Just change the extension back to .h5e

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:59:53 GMT

I've been using a lot more Mid-Focus EQ lately, and it is really necessary to get a real-sounding amp tone. I like to keep the Q values fairly low (0-25%) and set the hp frequency anywhere from 0-15% and the lp frequency around 60-75%. Keep in mind I typically use the SM57 on axis mic, which needs the most high end roll-off of all the mics. For the 57 off axis or others, you don't need to trim the highs as hard. I also like to start with it's gain at 0%, which is near unity, then start turning it up. I usually use it as the last piece of my patch, so it serves as a patch final volume control.

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:54:16 GMT

Hey there, did you ever get a chance to evaluate this patch? Thanks!

Re: Help me improve my HD500 patch(es)!

support@line6.com — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:39:00 GMT

thanks bro! I will i know I will