Community: Message List - This was my thread to say good bye - it is now a math lesson about the Workbench software. This was not what I planned for this thread.

Re: This was my thread to say good bye - it is now a math lesson about the Workbench software. This was not what I planned for this thread.

support@line6.com — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:55:57 GMT

I just saw the dates when I saw your reply. Bahaaaa! sorry bout that. Newbie mistake. Hold the Line----6

-Cheers

Re: This was my thread to say good bye - it is now a math lesson about the Workbench software. This was not what I planned for this thread.

support@line6.com — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:25:41 GMT

4 months late to the party

Re: This was my thread to say good bye - it is now a math lesson about the Workbench software. This was not what I planned for this thread.

support@line6.com — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:42:13 GMT

I am a brand new user of line 6 products and guitars (4 months) A kind reminder to all on this forum:

1. You are on here because somewhere in the beginning of your life you fell in love with sound and making it with strings or something to this degree.

2. You bought a line 6 product, and wanted to embrace the whole scope of the line 6 Kingdom.

3. You got a user name and password and said, "sweet! I can chat with other people who love line 6 stuff too, and get help where I'm ignorant to it."

4. You began to learn from great folks who love to share ideas and wisdom.

5. WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU GO FROM LOVING MUSIC AND TONE, TO WORRYING ABOUT WHAT SOME FACELESS PERSON ON A FORUM POSTED ABOUT YOU, OR DIDN'T LIKE YOUR ADVICE? REALLY? I HAVE A 6 YEAR OLD AND AN 8 YEAR OLD THAT DON'T DO THIS STUFF. THE HILLS, MELROSE PLACE, AND ANDY GRIFFITH WOULD LOVE THIS, BUT NOT US!

6. DROP IT, AND MOVE ON!

7.TAKE YOUR AGRESSION OUT BY CREATING SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL THROUGH YOUR KILLER LINE 6 PRODUCTS.

8. RETURN TO THE FORUM ONCE YOU'VE REALIZED IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU, IT'S ABOUT THE GEAR....PERIOD!

9....Oy, I miss my xylophone.

10. Yesterday is gone, tomorrow hasn't happened, and today is all you have. Today is worth more than a digital rant.

11. BACK TO MY ESPRESSO AND VARIAX...CHEERS EVERYONE.

Re: This is goodbye & a finish to my free assistance. I did gladly sign up years ago, but I'm finished now.

support@line6.com — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:23 GMT

Karl - just a guess on my part here. Any participation to any question or discussion that I joined in on has never stopped you or anyone else from offering suggestions as well. Even if to simply agree or disagree with any post by not just me. I'm clearly NOT an Expert since I've not been tagged as such as you referred to me as, Karl.

And in keeping with seemingly required posting format as to not confuse those reading...

And while I'm itemizing, exactly who did you have to sleep with to get labeled an Expert?
Do you know more about the products we each have than I do?
If the answer is no, then why are you labeled Expert and I am not? If this whole thing doesn't prove my point about that Expert label being a complete political load of manure, then I don't know what does.
I very recently learned that the label is NOT point related as I previously thought. It is based ENTIRELY on just ONE OR MORE Line 6 people in charge of this forum to honor others with that tag.
And back when these were first being handed out (2009 or so?), I simply ASKED how does someone get one, and then ASKED publicly why I didn't have one. Wow, what a storm that caused!! Just ASKING why? If asking why is wrong, then I'm wrong very often.
While being wrong from asking a question - if I do get a correct answer I have instead learned something and not need ask again. I only keep asking when I don't get a correct or logical answer. to my question. And in all this time there has been only PERSONAL, not LOGICAL reason for keeping that tag from under my L6 ID. Not very business-like in my opinion.
I was and still am asking WHY the POD HD line is the way it is. I asked WHY the JTV guitars were made the way they were, and the same for the DT amps which are still too loud for most small club or bar use on stage in my opinion. All these questions WHY but none caused the storm the question why caused regarding the Expert tag. Almost like there was something to hide about it or something not supposed to be discussed publicly? I doubt this is true, but why such a strong reaction to a simple question? And in all this time never has there been a single thing in writing by anyone from Line 6 to explain why certain people got tags and others did not. WHY???

Now that I've laid out this interrogatory in the manner which I've been told was required by Experts and non-Experts alike. Apparently my regular posts seem to easily confuse just a few "In-crowd" people like yourself. Lucky for me and for those looking for help, suggestions, guidance, answers to problems, etc. are the majority and seem to have no trouble at all understanding my posts as well as being very kind and writing to thank me for being helpful.

I've been crucified by people like you for being hard to understand when it seems perfectly clear to me what I was writing about as this guy thought. But unlike you and a few others I did not jump all over him, I just tried to give the best answer I could even though the question made no sense to me and still doesn't. He got very angry and posted nothing more than a personal attack against me and in the typical double standard manner you and the others in your clique have, you chose to "like" what he wrote about me. **All this negative stuff from the person in question and myself has been deleted by Line 6 or edited on my own so as little as possible might remain.**

It's astounding to me that even me saying goodbye is bringing about all this BS crap that I did not start and yet will probably get blamed for.

...in the meantime, I'll just wait for my abuse submission is acted upon by Line6Tony or someone else from the Forum police to remove this very objectionable post that is a clear violation of the posting rules. **It was deleted by Line6Tony on June 21, 2012 - 10 days after it was posted and the abuse report was submitted.**

Message was edited by: Neal Van

Re: This is goodbye & a finish to my free assistance. I did gladly sign up years ago, but I'm finished now.

support@line6.com — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:23:02 GMT

Thanks for your insight, but I simply am who I am. I hate the written word as it leaves to much room for the readers interpretation. I'm old school - I'd rather speak and type. Many other are much better at it than I am, so I'm outta here. I do not need the unwanted BS that others seem to have in abundance and nothing better to do with their time.

Thanks for your opinion - Take care,

Neal

Re: This was my thread to say good bye - it is now a math lesson about the Workbench software. This was not what I planned for this thread.

support@line6.com — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:57:22 GMT

Thumbs Up for comment from both Silverhead and Edstar - two guys (one with a tag, the other without) who give very useful and sound contributions. Forums, I have learnt is the Wild Wild West, where the Good, the Bad and the Ugly exists.

Re: This is goodbye & a finish to my free assistance. I did gladly sign up years ago, but I'm finished now.

support@line6.com — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:24:18 GMT

Hi Neal,

I also appreciate all your input and have always found your contributions polite, friendly and very useful and I am sure many others that you have helped over the years feel the same. You don't need a tag, badge, or official title, as your actions, deeds and contributions to this forum speak volumes and say all any of us need to know. All the regular forum users soon get to know who the friendly, helpful, and knowledgable contributors are and I am sure none of us worry about whether people who have helped us have a particular tag/badge/title or whether they have had 1 post or 5000 posts - if they have shared their knowledge and helped solve a problem or issue then we are very grateful.

I am sorry to hear about the problems that you have had especially the most recent. All I can say from an outside perspective is that it looks like a classic case of mis-communication due to the sterile medium of the written word. I bet that if you guys had your conversation face to face that you would have easily communicated and avoided any misunderstandings and would probably be buying each other beers and talking about all sorts of musical gear and sharing stories. And that would be because you would each have picked up on all the non-verbal physical visual clues that are so essential to human interaction and you would each have adjusted what you said accordingly as you talked because you would be able to see the other persons reaction to what you were saying. Without the visual clues we can only interpret the written word using our own emotions and feelings and therefore it is very easy to read in the wrong intent and meaning behind the words on the page. I am always doing it and have to step back and remind myself that without the visual side of the conversation I may well be misreading what was written down.

I hope you decide to stick around and contribute but that is ultimately your decision to make.

All the best with whatever you decide to do in the future!

Take care!

Eddie

Re: This is goodbye & a finish to my free assistance. I did gladly sign up years ago, but I'm finished now.

support@line6.com — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:30:44 GMT

Na, just lighten up. The internet is a wacky place. I would appreciate your input in any questions I might have... I am sure many others feel the same. Sometimes things get on my nerves and I pull back and return a little wiser and choose my interactions more carefully. Don't let any sh*t from this forum get you down. We need you!

Re: This is goodbye & a finish to my free assistance. I did gladly sign up years ago, but I'm finished now.

support@line6.com — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:39:07 GMT

Very well "played" get it I used the word played in honor of your ID??

Truly very funny, but I'm am really retiring, leaving, quitting, giving up, I'll let others choose my words for me as I seem never to do evn that too well.

I want the whole thing deleted by the Line 6 Forum police, but alas, my abuse report and personal requests have --to this point-- continued to go unattended.

I had only one recourse to act upon which was to change the only part I could change. The title and my initial post.

Really did get a good and very much needed laugh from you well timed snippet. Thanks.

Cheers to you as well,

Neal

player99 wrote:

This was my thread to say good bye - it is now a math lesson about the Workbench software. This was not what I planned for this thread.

I guess you cannot go. Welcome back!

Cheers,

R B

Re: This is goodbye & a finish to my free assistance. I did gladly sign up years ago, but I'm finished now.

support@line6.com — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:43:25 GMT

This was my thread to say good bye - it is now a math lesson about the Workbench software. This was not what I planned for this thread.

I guess you cannot go. Welcome back!

Cheers,

R B