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Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:25:39 GMT

CairnsFella ha scritto:

I would say that in the main we are in agreement.

I'll remember that:
in the main

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 00:48:45 GMT

Hurghanico,

I would say that in the main we are in agreement.

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:00:36 GMT

Your opinion CairnsFella is as important as mine .. neither more nor less

having said that, now I want to exaggerate and I imagine a hypothetical fantastic modeler:

I choose an amp model and appears next to me a tridimensional hologram of the amp chosen with all the original buttons and potentiometers (including the fuse holder), I activate an effect, and it appears another hologram with all the details (including a corner of rust) on the ground near my feet .. from a scenic point of view it would be really awesome .. might be called POD 3D or something like that..

who knows, maybe one day someone will realize it ..

but how much money all this would cost? .. and especially would serve truly something? .. At that point it would not be better to have the real things? ..

To be honest, I think the POD HD series offer in absolute the best value for money that is currently on the market ..

with an axe-fx that costs (only?) 4 times as much, you may have some more minor details to play with (very few people make a real use of those added controls), and more DSP power available (that's a good thing, but it isn't free), but the point is: are those minor added details really so necessary for what you need to do?..and above all, would you be willing to pay much more to get them?

at the end of the story, in my humble opinion, the level of details and sound quality that I have for the price I paid for my HD500 is more than enough to get just great sound results.. about this Line6 programmers have been very smart to choose the essential ingredients to be included in their modeler..

the only thing that disappointed me a little (still taking into account what I got for the price) is the documentation, a bit confusing on some points and less detailed than in the past..

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 03:24:43 GMT

hurghanico wrote:

I would say that the controls actually present in every amp are modeled quite well..
the missing amp controls should be post-amp and have an effect similar to those of a hypothetical post-mixer .. I noted, however, that the missing ones have almost no effect (or very little) on the characteristic amp sound ..

A matter of opnion I guess (and Im quite happy to accept that your opinion would be much more relevant than that of a novice like myself). But I still feel a model should ideally reflect like for like in every instance possible (and I would doubt the omissions would be in the impossible category).

Still.. I am nitpicking. I dont really see this as a drawback per se, just a dissapointment.

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:28:15 GMT

I would say that the controls actually present in every amp are modeled quite well..
the missing amp controls should be post-amp and have an effect similar to those of a hypothetical post-mixer .. I noted, however, that the missing ones have almost no effect (or very little) on the characteristic amp sound ..

unfortunately in the official description are missing some details ..

as someone already knows, some time ago I made a compilation of the included amp models where you can see the actual controls of every amp:

http://line6.com/support/message/395729#395729

for the bright switch on or off I can't know if it was off or on (I would say: probably on, like in the old XT/X3)..

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:58:44 GMT

Thanks for the further reading link.

I do feel it is a bit of a shame the models are not more "knob for knob". Despite my lack of familiarity with any of the models, and my happiness with the sound I can get, it would still be nice to feel my virtual knob twists were like for like had I the real amp in the room.

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:36:30 GMT

You can't move the mixer itself. However you can move each and every amp and effect in front of the mixer which has the same result.

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 00:44:36 GMT

What I mean is how to move the mixer to the end? As far as I can tell I can't move it at all.

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:11:36 GMT

The only pretty reliable way I have found to check input and output levels is to use USB output to a computer and a DAW to measure the levels. You may be able to do a similar thing with the regular HD output going into a good mixing console or a smart phone with the right application. The potential issue with that latter method is probably to really be sure you don't get messed up with some level miss-match on the analog interface. i.e., unless you have experience with the equipment or SW it may take a while to become confident about what you measure is actually what's really there.

Sorry, I understand this may not be much help but there is nothing else I know of. Maybe some other people on the forum have tried other routes amd can comment.

Martin

Re: Blackface Dbl Vs Vib

support@line6.com — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:06:18 GMT

Move mixer to the end if you want output higher than -12dB and adjust as needed. If Mixer is not last make sure it does not produce output higher than -12dB to prevent compression in the post effects.

I've read this tip on other messages but I don't have a clue how to do that.

Could you please clarify what you mean here and how to achieve it?