Community: Message List - POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 15:50:37 GMT

What if you were using gear that did respect the no-copy bit? If you put a stripper inbetween your POD and your recording gear to turn the bit off it'd then technically be a DMCA violation.

It's actually a bit unclear whether recording software that ignores the no-copy bit might technically be an illegal circumvention device too.

So, the question is - why on earth is this bit set in the first place?

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:50:24 GMT

Amon wrote:

Ok thanks, but why is the same loop you record in the DAW allways a bit different ? it wont to Null in the DAW, i can to null with all my other hardware over SPDIF .

You still dont seem to have reported an actual 'problem' that I can see. If your goal is to acheive a track of silence, just dont plug anything in . ... or perhaps use one of your other interfaces, as you seem to be able to acheive your inverted track home made silence using those.

Seriously though, I really dont understand. Are you really saying that you can route the HD loop out through analog to another interface, then SPDIF to your DAW and produce a track that will invert and sum to null. I'd be somewhat suprised given the need for the analog stage. Alternatively, if you are using a differrent source, then thats not apples and apples.

Furthermore, despite the possible theory that the sound emmited by the looper will be identical each time, I would personally suggest that this would be very very unlikely. Perhaps if you were using no effects and no sims it 'may' be possible? I mean what type of variation are you experiencing.

If you have any genuine concern here (and I am having to be a little artistic here in your favour) then it could be you are saying that the POD does not maintain a consistent tone through SPDIF. If this is at all representative of your concern I would suggest that you post an example of two tonally different takes so we can actually hear and comment upon the difference.

If however you are merely curious regarding the tech involved (which I also suffer from, from time to time) then I would make this clearer and voice your questions accordingly. The reality is, however, if this is your angle, then few here would be able to give you what you seek.

I am a little relieved, however, that you have dropped your SCSM enquiries.

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:25:59 GMT

the looper is mono...so, while you live recording is stereo when you record it, once you start looping the loop buffer is mono you get a summed version of your tone...

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:05:51 GMT

Ok thanks, but why is the same loop you record in the DAW allways a bit different ? it wont to Null in the DAW, i can to null with all my other hardware over SPDIF .

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:40:11 GMT

so basically you are OOPSing a loop and expecting it to be silent?

not sure what practical application this has other than easing your mind... really i just don't get it... but whatever... like i said call line6 if you want some sort of real answer.

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:31:49 GMT

Ok for ones who understand, make a loop with your HD, than record it 2 times in 2 Tracks with your DAW (cubase,Logic...) over SPDIF, than proof it if this files are the same, so make a to null, one Track phase invert. If you hear nothing everything is Ok, if not the files are not the same and that means every record you make is bit diffrent over SPDIF.

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:08:29 GMT

first off... this is a user forum... and noone here will know the answer... all you will get here is our best guesses...

if you want an official answer from an official source: http://line6.com/company/contact/

you are right about one thing... i don't understand.

but hopefully they can ease your mind.

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:53:36 GMT

You dont understand every loop take you record is a diiferent over SPDIF, there is a Sound different . Is this matter enough and i want to know if it have something to do with this Copy Protection .

What must i do to get a simple answer on my simple question ? did you want to see my Pass or driving licence ?

But i understand there is no answer .

cheers

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:43:36 GMT

SCSM Copy protection is an old leftover from the days of DAT...Once you record wavs, you don't have to worry as those bits are ignored...nothing worry about unless you are recording from the spdif of the POD to a DAT machine...

Re: POD HD SPDIF Out Copy-Protected ?

support@line6.com — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:28:53 GMT

Amon wrote:

Why and where for this Copy Protection is ?????????????

you still haven't answered the community reply... why does it matter?

is it preventing you from doing something? or is the simple fact that your software is reporting it just eating at you?

because somethings matter in life... and others.... not so much.