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    <title>Community: Message List - Feeling a little rubed</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:33:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407452?tstart=0#407452</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:31298fd5-3746-4b46-97d5-21c0f1f65744] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wasn't being sarcastic about all the good things I said! lol! I meant every word. I was just drawing from the vibe set by spaceatl's post. This is getting as confusing as a Line 6 amp!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:31298fd5-3746-4b46-97d5-21c0f1f65744] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:33:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407452?tstart=0#407452</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T20:33:31Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407451?tstart=0#407451</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b51203c9-ec29-49b9-9773-a19465ab88fe] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh.... nevermind.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b51203c9-ec29-49b9-9773-a19465ab88fe] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:22:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407451?tstart=0#407451</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T20:22:47Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407449?tstart=0#407449</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:761d5013-4764-4bd0-8895-01fa85e27b09] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;LOL!! Oh, no - it's all good!! I liked your post. I understood the sarcasm and it was fitting. I totally agree with you. I just built on it and said something I've been wanting to say for a while, now! &lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:761d5013-4764-4bd0-8895-01fa85e27b09] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:20:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407449?tstart=0#407449</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T20:20:40Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407445?tstart=0#407445</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cf71206f-fb4d-4a81-b4b4-521e218fa960] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was being a little sarcastic...It's not a stupid thread...It just leaves me with the impression of someone who just gave up because they couldn't get immediate gratification because it might actually involve learning something new...sorry, that part just annoys me...But to each thier own...I too have learned more things that I can count on this forum...I am so envious of the kids coming up today...The resources available are just endless...All the secret knowlege really isn't a secret anymore...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cf71206f-fb4d-4a81-b4b4-521e218fa960] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:58:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407445?tstart=0#407445</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T19:58:11Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407435?tstart=0#407435</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:5a3c0c8e-f005-4f37-963e-7ddec334f439] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;...and before someone replies/starts bitching about fanboys, let me just point out that we have plenty of bitchfest threads here.&amp;#160; Far too many. There's nothing wrong with the odd praise.&amp;#160; Especially, when it is referring to the community as opposed to the product or the company.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:5a3c0c8e-f005-4f37-963e-7ddec334f439] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:18:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407435?tstart=0#407435</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T19:18:45Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407432?tstart=0#407432</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:71c1ad3d-7a15-4069-a022-852738d6542b] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah, well.... I hadn't seen or touched an amp for 30+ years, thought MIDI was a dress length, drive was somethin' ya did in yer car, gain is what happens as ya get older,etc. I bought a used SV212 mk I and won a DT50 212. What a culture shock!! lol!!! With the help of the excellent people in this forum, not only did I update my DT50, but i've learned how any why one changes amps &amp;amp; cabs, what makes each different, how and why the DT does what it does, actually used MidiOx before DTEdit was born, got a Midi Mobilizer and learned how to use that, can use one of my amps as a cab with the other, hooked up both to a mixing board along with my PC, know the difference between balanced &amp;amp; unbalanced cables are, what trs vs. ts cables are (let's just say ALL cables, AES, XLR, instrument vs. speaker, etc.), used&amp;#160; the 4CM method to hook up a multi-effects pedal that I didn't even know how to use before coming here..........just a whole BUNCH of stuff that I knew absolutely nothing about. Why, I can now even replace and bias my tubes....and know what and why I must use the tubes that are used. ALL from this forum!!!!! So, this topic is NOT totally useless. It made me feel like a Frickin' genius!! YOU guys made me a frickin' genius!!! Special thanks to geppert, who took a lot of time to research and answer questions I had that didn't even pertain to Line 6 equipment - my friend!!! Thank You ALL!!! YER THE GREATEST. That lad just doesn't know what he passed up on!! &lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/wink.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:71c1ad3d-7a15-4069-a022-852738d6542b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:46:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407432?tstart=0#407432</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T18:46:28Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407429?tstart=0#407429</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:33de683d-c324-4afc-a8d9-2de2787adb2f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is nothing more than a classic Gen Y rationalization.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[sarcasm warning]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Someone else must be at fault for this having happened. Obviously, the blame in this situation could not possibly lay on the person who made the decision to buy without doing thier own DD...It's always Line 6's fault.&lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/devil.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[begin midi rant]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many musicains have been using midi since the 1980s....I am so sick of the "it takes a midi guru" crapola...If you don't want to learn it, don't use it. Expecting any company to write a manual that will make midi easy is beyond reasonable...You kids have the internet for christ sake....I learned how to program my ADA midi switching rig in 1988...without the internet...It was painful too...But I wanted that capability in my rig...There wasn't a forum for me to whine on about how ADA should have created a app to make controlling my SPXs easier...jeez...this is a stupid thread and I have nothing against someone venting about how they made a mistake...but refusing to learn how to use midi while insisting on using midi is...well...here's the cake...eat it...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[midi rant ends here...for now...sorry fellas...]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:33de683d-c324-4afc-a8d9-2de2787adb2f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:59:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407429?tstart=0#407429</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T17:59:57Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407424?tstart=0#407424</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:723c26bc-3ba2-47c6-ae32-1deb45e8ace3] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've been thinking about this and Line6 didn't rube anyone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe the sales person at the store rubed someone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I understand that we like convenience.&amp;#160; I studied technology because I love the convenience it affords.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The situation here is somone wants all the benefits of the technology without a learning curve.&amp;#160; The thing is every new or progressed technology has some learning curve. Even a cel phone or smart phone takes some adaptation.&amp;#160; I believe the curve in this case is pretty slim versus the amount of benefits.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is a support forum and not a complaint board.&amp;#160; This thread is completely non-constructive aside from all the supportive responses.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:723c26bc-3ba2-47c6-ae32-1deb45e8ace3] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:38:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407424?tstart=0#407424</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T17:38:03Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407401?tstart=0#407401</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9926c2dc-50c4-4d0e-b224-b53842dc2f56] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You're right about one thing for sure....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you had read the forum first you would've gotten the reccommended midi controller.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9926c2dc-50c4-4d0e-b224-b53842dc2f56] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:53:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407401?tstart=0#407401</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T14:53:35Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Feeling a little rubed</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/407408?tstart=0#407408</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ff63e96d-af26-40b4-8168-7f9fc6bc0eac] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can confirm that the ESI-Audio Midimate II works fine with the DT-25.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did my firmware update with it &lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It's a good cable with nice features:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h1&gt;Features&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;USB MIDI interface with 2 MIDI connectors, each can work as independent input or output&amp;#160; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;high-speed connection to USB 2.0 or 1.1 equipped PC or Macintosh system&amp;#160; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;bus powered, requires no external power supply&amp;#160; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;no driver needed for Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Mac OS X&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It actuallt senses input and output automatically!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ff63e96d-af26-40b4-8168-7f9fc6bc0eac] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:34:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/407408?tstart=0#407408</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-01-18T15:34:49Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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