Community: Message List - iLok, Pod Farm questions

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:01:27 GMT

just plugin the XT, and deauthorize it with the license manager. that should be all you'd need to do.

it will free up one of your 4 authorizations, as you can have 4 devices/computers authorized at one time.

you can leave it, but then the first time someone uses monkey with any account other than yours it will go away....

if its got the latest firmware... no reason to use monkey!

so if you sell it to a friend.... just saying... you could leave it... (assuming you don't have other devices)

the proper thing to do would be to deauthorize though.

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sun, 03 Feb 2013 05:36:32 GMT

OK, I purchased Power Pack & everything seems to be back to where it was, without the Pod xt being plugged in. (Happy to have the Plexi 45 back.)

To deactivate the Pod xt licenses, do I need to deactivate from the Line 6 site (Authorized devices), the license manager or the Pod xt itself? Or all of the above? Do I need to initialize the Pod xt before I sell it?

And thanksThe RealZap! You've been a great help, when I was very close to giving up on my Line 6 stuff.

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:51:52 GMT

it doesn't matter what device you buy the pack for... it will belong to your user account and can be used with any eligible hardware you have or hardware independent with the pod farm 2+ license.

when you sell the xt, you should deactivate the licenses on it. the buyer won't get those licenses unless you gift them to the new owner (but then you'd lose them!)

if you don't deactivate the licenses will still show up unitl they use monkey, and monkey will take them away, unless they use monkey with your username and password.

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sat, 02 Feb 2013 21:44:26 GMT

Sorry for revisiting this flogged horse, but I have a couple of more questions. It seems to make sense for me to sell my Pod xt & just purchase the Power Pack. But, the link you posted takes me to Power Pack for UX1, a device I don't own.

So just to be clear, I want to be hardware free & am willing to purchase what I need to do that & still keep all of the model packs I bought, as well as getting the original Power Pack. When I turn off the Pod xt & open up the L6 License Manager, I can see that Pod farm 2, Collectors Classics & FX Junkie are still recognized as well as my PC.

So, what exactly do I need to buy in order to get me there?

Also, when I sell the Pod xt, what happens with the add on model packs that are in the actual unit? Will the new owner own them & be able to use them? Will it affect me? Can I use that as a selling point?

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:40:54 GMT

Thanks again, The Real Zap... I'll look into doing it that way. I guess this could have been narrowed down to one answer if I posted what I actually do own at the beginning of the thread. Hardware free, that would be nice. But then there's the dreaded iLok for the EWQL stuff...Decisions...

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:49:28 GMT

you really don't want to buy that, unless there is a platinum version listed...

why?

because the ilok versions do not support model packs in any way shape or form...

you'd only have the standard package with no upgrade possible other than going clear to platinum...

(which is what is in my picture, platinum=all model packs)

for the same 50$ you can get the power pack that will work with your existing license:

http://line6.com/store/item/52

and then you'd be hardware independent... for just a few bucks more than the cost of the ilok itself with no licenses. (but of course you'd still need one for your other licenses that require it)

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:36:53 GMT

Thanks again... I think I've got some of this figured out. I did have it setup properly and up to date. My license is the same as yours except that I only have Pod Farm 2, Collectors Classics & FX Junkie. ( I don't own a pointy headstock guitar, so I've never needed the metal pack.) When the Pod is on, the italicized packs are Power Pack & Propellerhaed Record, the latter which I don't care about. Unfortunately, Power Pack stuff is what I use the most. So it looks like I'm back to square one. But from your pic, I see that it's showing up without the device hooked up. But when I do look into buying a model pack, I end up at this page... So back to my original question, can I use any iLok to access the rest of the software? This is unnecessarily confusing.

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Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:31:39 GMT

thats not the license manager, that's the web interface...

the license manager should look like this:

if any of the model packs or other licenses are italicized they are authorized by hardware and not owned by the user.

if you don't have the license manager installed download and run line6 monkey... it should be in the tools folder.

http://line6.com/software/

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:39:43 GMT

I'm not sure you can see this pic, but it does look like my PC is authorized. I'm gonna unplug the Pod & see what's missing from the model packs, but the FX Junkie was something that I have used a fair bit. So, it brings me back to my point of buying it twice.

I'm not trying to argue, just pointing out what I see as a costly redundancy. The way that Amplitube is authorized works great for me, and having the ability to pick & choose using Custom Shop is an option that L6 should look at. In the meantime, they're losing customers. With the three Pods I've bought (1,2 & xt), plus the Variax acoustic, I spent thousands even before I bought any software. I like the gear, I like the sounds, I like the usability, but this authorization is not working for me.

Re: iLok, Pod Farm questions

support@line6.com — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:03:54 GMT

if you bought the pod farm 2 upgrade then it's ready for hardware free operation... you just have to upgrade to 2.5 or newer... its not tied to your device only authorized to your device... it can be authorized to up to 4 devices/computers at once....

you might try opening the license manager and authorizing your computer...

the only cost you would have would be replacing the model packs that aren't hardware free...

windowman wrote:

So, the potential new user has priority over the actual user? It would make more sense to have the software & hardware as separate things, but this hole has already been dug, I guess.

actually... the person in possession of the hardware gets to use that hardwares capabilites (via plugin) no priority either way....

just under the old system, proving you had the hardware (rights to the plugin) involve connecting it.

if you think about it... you can't use the pod without having the pod (the plugin is just a way to use the pod on your pc)... see what i'm saying? it really does make sense..... doesn't make everyone happy.... but it does make sense.