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    <title>Community: Message List - i need a great low volume amp, not practice amp!</title>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:20:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: i need a great low volume amp, not practice amp!</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/409734?tstart=0#409734</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:264680a6-91cc-482b-889d-e8179f489bc6] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;it takes volume to get tone... at least from a tube amp... and the only way to tame it to reasonable volumes is by using an attenuator or having a very low wattage tube amp.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;plenty of smaller simpler pro amps out there besides... the vox night train, the orange tiny terror, blackstar makes a few...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:264680a6-91cc-482b-889d-e8179f489bc6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:20:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/409734?tstart=0#409734</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-05T00:20:10Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: i need a great low volume amp, not practice amp!</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/409705?tstart=0#409705</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b51ff762-4a2d-4d6e-b22a-6f2687115d06] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;"if you want a pro amp get a pro amp.... you should look into attenuators that will lower the volume" this is what im talking about. -_- why is it so hard to make a pro amp and a low volume. the funny thing is there are more ppl like me who dont gig or tour around the country than there is ppl who need a 50-100 watt amp. ppl who work 40-60 hours a week and want to come home to a great amp and rig they can play at any time of the day with out waking the ppl in the apartment building or disturbing the ppl in the other room. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b51ff762-4a2d-4d6e-b22a-6f2687115d06] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:58:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/409705?tstart=0#409705</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-04T20:58:18Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: i need a great low volume amp, not practice amp!</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/409698?tstart=0#409698</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:95716ac3-5ad7-423d-bfa7-e8aa58a42bcd] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;if you want a pro amp get a pro amp... you should look into attenuators that will lower the volume for you while still giving you that pro amp tone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;a good example would be a dr z airbrake.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:95716ac3-5ad7-423d-bfa7-e8aa58a42bcd] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:28:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/409698?tstart=0#409698</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-04T20:28:11Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>i need a great low volume amp, not practice amp!</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/409696?tstart=0#409696</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:35b77c2d-2de1-438d-9d43-5cf48db30963] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know i cant be the only one here thinking about this. and before anyone starts screaming, i know there are companys like line 6 who are trying to make good low watt amps. However i dont think any company has really come close. IMO i think the problem is the companys out there are not trying to give us a great low volume amp. instead they want to give us a practice amp. the way of thinking on the subject is wrong. the amp companys out there think all we need is some low watt tube amp or SS amp with a 3 band EQ and some crapy&amp;#160; built in effects and slap a 12" speaker in a crappy wood combo and say " ok here you go" when what we really want is the 100 watt version at a low 10-20 watt SS volume that we can actually crank in our bedroom or in my case apartment with out getting told " your to loud". also the look and features are something to be improved on to. i am not a gigging musician. but that doesnt mean i dont want a midi switchable effects and amp rig in my home. or a foot controllable effects loop and channel selector. i might be wrong here, since i dont know anything about building amps. i only play them. but i think what we need is a tube driven pre amp with a tube simulated SS power amp at 10-20 watts, multiple independant channels, real reverb, midi in and out, foot switchable fx loop and channle selector, solid wood construction, and a 4 8" speaker cab. maybe not 8" but something smaller than 12 for sure. anyone else have any other ideas? am i crazy thinking we might need something like this? idk what do you think?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:35b77c2d-2de1-438d-9d43-5cf48db30963] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:10:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/409696?tstart=0#409696</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-04T20:10:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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