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May 13, 2010 11:05 PM

Lets discuss your takes on each of the amp/effect models in MK I

I know a lot of folks bag on the MKI because of the 2.0 pro engine within it. I however find the amp sims a bit more organic if you will than a few MK II counterparts.

Much like how many of us Loved the Jc 800 2.0 pro and the following Pods just couldnt quite hit it imo.

Any ways the book is a little Grey on a few of the models and their capabilities.

 

Ive found that the Crunch channels both amber(68 50 watt plexi) and blue(68 100 watt jumped plexi) models are capable of nealy all the Marshall amp tones Ive heard with a bit of tweaking.

They hit everything from AC/DC too Bad Company too Hair Metal. The beauty is both models clean up very nicely with the guitars volume and get very Blues Breaker and JTM vibey as well.

 

The Metal channels are nice but their useable gains for me is never much if at all past noon.

The amber is supposed too be a Dual Recto lead but Ive found it can do a great Mark II and III as well as the DR and TR sound. You can coax a bit of Nomad as well with the presence and mid control imo. The sweep this model has is very cool and again it cleans up really nice imo.

The blue channel isnt offered with a model name but I believe this model too be the Uber or xtc or Bogner too a degree.

It has a great thick tone that can go from AIC too Vai very easily and the Sweep mid control can give you a great mid Gain Boutique tone which is quite complex sounding too my ears.

Ive found a lot of good clean, semi crunch on up too hi gain tones on this model playing with its mid contour and the presence and gain settings.

 

Im impressed how Some of these models are capable of multiple variations that make for  differing sounding tone stacks.

Pretty cool so far.

More too come.....

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    May 14, 2010 5:37 AM (in response to V-TYPE)
    Re: Lets discuss your takes on each of the amp/effect models in MK I

    Well I have a different outlook on this. I've never concerned myself with how accurate it modeled what it's supposed to. Not even when I used only the POD as my main rig. I've always been more concerned about what I could do with it. When I first got the SV, I had a hard choosing an amp model. They all sounded really good. I play in an original hard rock/metal band. I use only 4 channels and 2 amp models. 1A is Metal Amber, 1B is Clean Blue, 1C is B with Tremelo on, and 1D is B with the Phaser on.

     

    The effects really aren't bad, there just isn't enough control over them. I use a M13 with my SV, but still use some of the onboard effects. I was using the SV for Reverb, but recently switched to the M13's Reverb. I have a song where I have to jump from Dist to Clean with Tremelo and one where I have to go from Dist to Clean with Phaser, which why I have channels set up the way they are. My 1B has Chorus that's not on, I'll that Chorus here and there. If the SV had MIDI I'd use the M13 for all my effects. Speaking of MIDI, if the SV had MIDI I'd use the M13 for all switching and not use the Shortboard. I have the Shortboard, M13, Exp pedal for M13, EH Bassballs and Dunlop 535Q on the floor. It would be nice to lose the Shortboard. All that being said I could easily do a gig with just my Shortboard and no outboard effects.

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      May 23, 2010 11:36 PM (in response to sofnwhat)
      Re: Lets discuss your takes on each of the amp/effect models in MK I

      Thanks for the setup info.

      You really have it down imo.

      I find that I dont use effects in any songs gain parts other than maybe a slight "wettening" when talking Phase,Chorus ,Flange or Tremolo or the hidden uvibe model.

      Ive also found the Amber Metal channel too be quite pleasant and diverse for getting my Marshall like gains as well as my Recto like tones,etcc.

      Between its gain structure at differing levels and its combined effect with the Presence and Master volumes Im really getting 2-3 VG and differing sounds out of the same amp model.

      Im a bit disappointed with the noise gate. It engages but doesnt work all that well with higher gain or certain models but I do run a Dimarzio Super D and a Hot Duncan Custom Custom as well.


      My bud thinks I should run an XT or X3 Live into the power amp but I really dont think for me thats really needed.

      Have you had experience with either?

      Thanks

      V

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        May 24, 2010 5:23 AM (in response to V-TYPE)
        Re: Lets discuss your takes on each of the amp/effect models in MK I

        I forgot about the noise gate, it's sucks. I do have an X3L and I did try running it through the power amp in. It sounded good, like I expected it to. I do prefer the SV's tone over the X3. The SV are rawer. The X3 tone has more of a polished studio feel to them. Before I got my SV my rig was the X3L stereo into a Carvin TS100 tube power amp, to a BBE Sonic Maximizer, to 2 4X12 cabs. Awesome, big tone but I like my setup now better. Oh when running my X3 through the SV, I couldn't get it to where I liked until I threw the BBE in the mix.

         

        I think you just need to get something for effects to go with your SV. There are several units out there, just make sure it has an effects loop so you can 4CM it to the SV. My biggest gripe about the XTL and X3L where that the effects weren't that great. I've always like the amp models which are more important, but the effect are lacking. That why I was skeptical of the M13 at 1st, but I was wrong. The same effect like the Tron Up which is on both the POD and M13, sound nothing remotely the same. The Distortion Stomps on the POD were a waste to me. They all sounded thin and tinty. On the M13 I could use one of them with a clean patch on the SV and Dist tone that I'd be hpppy with.

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