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trouthead54 Just Startin' 57 posts since
May 10, 2008
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Dec 9, 2009 5:29 PM

Any interest in a dedicated custom Variax sustainer kit?

I've been tinkering on with Sustainers for a few months in my spare time ...as I have a few guitars & it'd have been cost prohibitive to have bought a Sustainer for them all - I'm now in the final throes of adding one to my Variax 500 ...& just wondered if there'd be any interest from others in such a beast?

 

One of the biggest problems with fitting sustainers, is power requirements & the complexity of fitting them to the guitar, I reckon I've addressed both issues...the power comes from the Variax, & this one of mine would be a fairly simple fit (about 5 wires to connect)

 

I made a short video a couple of weeks ago, which briefly outlines where I was at then (still in breadboard form, but soon will be a proper PCB - & no holes are necessary for the control switches...as I've devised a method to use the scratchplate screws as on/off touch sensor switches!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=106Se7AHknc

 

(using my Variax 500 scratchplate screw as touch sensor switch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNeSzgY2234 )

 

Just for fun, here's another Sustainer I made for my other axe, an Ibanez RG, it has 'bling' (Leds)....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXB92cSQi8E

 

 

 

Anyway...what do you guys think - a Variax sustainer....a cool idea?

  • Hey_Joe Iknowathingortwo 606 posts since
    Jan 24, 2007

    Yeah I like the idea, but not sure exactly what you mean.

    Like put a sustainer on to drive the Variax piezo bridge - or to put a sustainer/mag pup set with the Variax?

     

    I recently I  bought a Fernandes Retro Rocket Elite and thought...oh boy, now I can finally do Fripp and Belew stuff...and true I can hold notes forever and get feedback instantly...I am very upset at how bad this thing sounds. It is a wonderful piece of workmanship but the Duncan hot rails sound like crap...I tinkered with setting it up and all brands of strings and finally paid for a pro set up. It has more "plink" than a Variax. Maybe it's my own fault thinking it would sound strat like but it comes no where close (had to buy online no stores had one to try out)...wish I could drive my 600 with the sustainer and get all the vax models and the infinite sustain/feedback.

      • Hey_Joe Iknowathingortwo 606 posts since
        Jan 24, 2007

        this sounds very, very COOL!

        how soon from "breadboard form, to a proper PCB"?

        how much do you think you would sell them for?

        any feedback controls planned? (like the 3 way switch?)

  • davidjdriver Just Startin' 34 posts since
    Jan 4, 2009

    More electronics = more problems and more noise. One of the biggest positive attributes of the variax is the lack of magnetic pickups. This leads to no RF interferrience when I use it with my pod and much better sustain than the cheep guitar should be able to produce. I don't like the new line they all have traditional pickups and they will have suck sustain.

      • tapslore Just Startin' 44 posts since
        Jun 7, 2009

        sign me up .  I imagine it'll look like an lp-style pickguard?  that would look great on my 700...

          • tapslore Just Startin' 44 posts since
            Jun 7, 2009

            better make a waiting list then.  which would make me number one, yes?

             

            btw, how is the system powered?  does it require batteries or can it tap the power supply of the variax?  plus, i know this is still early in development, but can you design a base that can fit the carved top of the 700?

             

            those touch switches are genius stuff, although i'm not sure if i want that many led's lighting up my guitar.  if the housing is black, it'll blend right into my Vax's black body, with only a single led to give folks aclue that this isn't an ordinary vax.

             

            ah the possibilities...

  • Eamonn01 Just Startin' 16 posts since
    May 31, 2007

    For my first post on this forum i want to congratulate you, this is so freakin' cool!

    I would defenitly be interested in such a device but i have few questions:

     

    - as i'm using a Roland GK3 Pu on my vax 600, would it be a probleme to not be able to place the device rigtht next to the bridge?

     

    - as i'm on a student budget, i must know the price befor being able to suscribe to any waiting list. Even an aproximation would be enough (will i have to sell my two legs?)

     

    - would it be a probleme to sheap overseas? (i'm living in Belgium)

     

    And that's it.

    Hope my english is understandable

    Once again, this is huge!

    All the best ;-)

     

    Eamonn

      • tapslore Just Startin' 44 posts since
        Jun 7, 2009

        they'll come around eventually, especially if you show that video of that coral sitar model sustaining for about 10 seconds.  although given the buzz surrounding the new-gen Vax, you might want to make a thinline Gk3-type model that'll fit right next to the neck pu of those Tyler's.

         

        btw, i'm from the Philippines (an hour's flight from Hong Kong), so it won't get any easier to ship it to me either.  but if it works as advertised, i'd definitely buy it for the price of a typical fernandes/sustainiac unit (although an early bird discount would certaily be welcome).

  • Eamonn01 Just Startin' 16 posts since
    May 31, 2007

    Any update?

  • corvette1 Just Startin' 3 posts since
    Nov 26, 2010

    Yes, I could be interested.  Any updates on hardware and price?

        • Eamonn01 Just Startin' 16 posts since
          May 31, 2007

          This could be a verry cool feature but if you ad that to the sustainer, will it still be possible to bypass that "violin effect"? I'm very excited about that device, can't wait to see (and ear) more about it.

          cheers ;-)

  • clay-man Just Startin' 155 posts since
    Nov 20, 2009

    Very awesome work. I always wanted cool features on my guitars. I fell in love with the infinite sustainer concept years ago, and then fell in love with the Variax concept. The Variax got my attention way more though, but I wondered if you could put a sustainer on the Variax. I saw a video of a custom guitar with both a variax and sustainer, but I didn't know if he could activate both.

     

    So on topic, this is really impressive and I have to say great job! I wonder how it sounds with the sitar and banjo, since the banjo model models the sustain of the strings I believe.

  • mkco123 Just Startin' 1 posts since
    Oct 13, 2012

    Hi,

     

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Let me know if you're still working on this and if you are ready to produce kits for sale....

     

    I have a 700 and love it, but to have one with a built in sustainer would be a dream come true for me, as a performer in a prog rock band

     

    Hope to hear from you...

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