Currently Being ModeratedApr 11, 2010 8:13 PM (in response to JBAdamsJr)Re: How to improve overdrive/distortion tones
i think you need to work with your EQ sections as much as possible.....or possibly use an EQ pedal after your M9/M13 to help sculpt your tone.
i have done several gigs using just the M9, and have gotten decent sounds from just the M9 going into my amp.
you have to spend some time really tweaking the individual dirt pedal models. i have had the best tones with the tube drive, and using lower gain settings.
you might want to use the MXR EQ pedal after the M9......and then maybe consider getting some sort of booster pedal in front of the M9 for solos/more gain. i use a BJF Pine Green compressor in front of mine to give me a little extra when i need it.
Currently Being ModeratedApr 12, 2010 6:07 PM (in response to BobbyDeVitoM9)Re: How to improve overdrive/distortion tones
Your MXR EQ can work pre or post dirt effects. Just ask yourself what you really want - 1) tone sculpting for your guitar's clean tone or 2) the aggressiveness of your overdrive or distortion settings? If its the latter, go post-dirt, otherwise use the MXR before the m9.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 12, 2010 1:14 AM (in response to JBAdamsJr)Re: How to improve overdrive/distortion tones
I think the overdrives and distortions are pretty weak, thin sounding and just plain harsh and not musical in the M13 compared to the real thing. I have a lot of the actual overdrives and comp pedals modeled and there is really no comparison. They seem to really thin out the guitar tone where the original pedal will not and have this very digital frequency that I can't dial out. My solution has been to bypass them (comps/overdrives/distortions) entirely and use the real pedals I like in front of the M13 and then have the verbs and delays and other fun stuff go through my amps effects loop using 4CM. The M13's biggest problem IMHO is the crappy sounding drive section. They could really improve it.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 20, 2010 9:30 PM (in response to JBAdamsJr)Re: How to improve overdrive/distortion tones
Here’s how I get whatever type of distortion I need out of my M13:
- at the risk of being obvious don’t overlook the tone settings on your amp; I set mine for a clean sound with the tone controls dialled to give a flat response then sculpt the sound with the Distortion Model controls, pick-up selection and the tone control on my guitar. (I rarely use the default settings since they can usually be tweaked to better suit whatever guitars/amps I’m using)
- like others have mentioned, use the EQ’s to further define the sound you want; if you’re not familiar with using them, experiment with the different types and adjust until your you’re happy. Patience pays off here…
- If you’re running any effects after your Distortion Model, experiment with the Mix controls: effects can add a lot of high end when the Mix is set high: adjusting it can provide a fuller sound. Alternately, by placing the EQ and the end of the chain you can reshape the frequencies of the effects used at a high Mix level.
Hope this helps, can’t agree with the previous opinion of the distortions; mine sure aren’t weak, thin or harsh by any comparison, (I’ve been playing twenty years and am pretty fanatic about tone). It’s just a matter of taking time to tweak the unit and get it sounding best with the rest of your gear.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 21, 2010 7:07 AM (in response to rvDoomlad)Re: How to improve overdrive/distortion tones
Do you have some example Overdrive and Distortion settings that you could send me that I could use as a starting point for tweaking with my gear? That would be very helpful, as well as if you have any good EQ example settings that you use, with clean or higher gain settings.