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thinkdifferent Just Startin' 8 posts since
Feb 8, 2009
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Apr 17, 2009 2:20 PM

News on the MacBook Problem?

Are there any news on the problem Vyzex Editor is having when running on MacBooks and OSX 10.5.6?

Can you yet at least confirm there is a problem?

 

I have to admit it is kind of annoying that the whole support thread where I mentioned this problem in great (if not too much) detail is gone with the new board software...

 

Cheers

    • PsicraftTony Iknowathingortwo 243 posts since
      Jun 22, 2007
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      Apr 25, 2009 9:43 PM (in response to thinkdifferent)
      Re: News on the MacBook Problem?

      Hi Think,

       

      As we reported in the old forum, on Aluminum unibody Macbook Pro models the USB port closest to the user is not reliable for use with PocketPOD, but the one closer to the screen is reliable.

       

      As a follow up, we don't have conclusive results yet (having only been able to test with a handful of units), but it appears that both USB ports on the that base model Aluminum unibody Macbooks are not reliable for use with PocketPOD.

       

      If there are any owners of basic unibody macbooks that are using PocketPOD who are running Vyzex PocketPOD without issues, please post here with your details.

       

      I will post here also when I learn anything new on this topic.

       

      Best regards,

       

      Tony

        • Pon50 Just Startin' 2 posts since
          Mar 30, 2008
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          Apr 26, 2009 5:13 PM (in response to thinkdifferent)
          Re: News on the MacBook Problem?

          I can't offer much help, but I can say I have the same problems on ALL of my machines.

           

          Macbook Pro running OSX,... both ports fail

          Macbook Pro running XP both ports fail

           

          Sony Vaio desktop running XP All ports fail

          Dell workstation running Vista All ports fail

           

          I have not been able to keep a Midi connection long enough to actually do anything useful. It's incredibly frustrating to get a connection, and then start to tweak settings, only to have the connection drop/fail at some point. Mac OSX or Windows seems to make no difference, and I have had ZERO issues with any other piece of hardware.

           

          I tried a different cable that was of better quality and things connected right away. I thought it may have solved the problem, but within 5 minutes it had dropped the connection again.

           

          I'm willing to try stuff out if it will help to get this sorted.

          • PsicraftTony Iknowathingortwo 243 posts since
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            Apr 26, 2009 7:13 PM (in response to Pon50)
            Re: News on the MacBook Problem?

            Have you tried a USB Port expansion card on your PCs? This solution works in almost every case where the computer is expandable. Unfortunately the base Macbooks aren't expandable so this solution doesn't apply to them.

             

            Tony

            • Pon50 Just Startin' 2 posts since
              Mar 30, 2008
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              Apr 26, 2009 7:28 PM (in response to PsicraftTony)
              Re: News on the MacBook Problem?

              Hmmm,... that's interesting, although I'm not sure it will work in my case. I've only got one free slot, and my video card has a heat sink that blocks that from being used. The other PC is my machine at work, and then obviously the 2 laptops I have tried it on cannot be expanded.

               

              Do you have any idea why this USB interface is so picky? I have never experienced difficulty with a USB connection, with the exception of a port needing to have more power. (For example, I have a port that feeds through my keyboard,... I know that one won't power my large USB hard drive, but works fine for simple thumb drives.)

               

              Thanks for trying to help though,... I'll take a look to see if I can shoehorn in a new card. I love the pocket POD, just frustrated by this connection issue.

                  • PsicraftTony Iknowathingortwo 243 posts since
                    Jun 22, 2007
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                    Jul 9, 2009 5:22 PM (in response to thinkdifferent)
                    Re: News on the MacBook Problem?

                    Tony here, answering your post in public.

                     

                    Please bear in mind that Psicraft Designs has no professional relationship with Apple Computer and that this is fundamentally an issue with the USB port hardware on their baseline aluminum MacBook. Secondly, Psicraft Designs makes software and we are not responsible for direct hardware product support of any of the instruments our editors work with, such as the Pocket POD - We did not design the instrument hardware nor do we have any means to revise or update it in the event of any hardware issues.

                     

                    All of this said, we have tracked down MacBook and MacBook Pro models and confirmed that the USB Ports on the basic MacBook aluminum body are unreliable for use with PocketPOD, beyond this the only news we could possibly report would be that Apple had revised their design and issued a warrantee recall on the earlier models, or if a later firmware update of these Macs had resolved the issue: Nothing like this has happened so far, of course.

                     

                    There is simply nothing else that can be done on the software side at this point. I cannot speak for Line 6 with regards to the PocketPOD USB hardware, but we know that PocketPOD requires an unshared connection with the host computer, which is why computers with internal hubs behind their USB ports must be expanded with a USB port card to provide such a connection to the PocketPOD before the software can work reliably. In the case of the Aluminum Macbook, both of its USB ports are apparently shared and it also does not have an expansion slot. The only company capable of addressing this issue is Apple.

                     

                    So, as I mentioned months back, when I learn of any news on this front I will post it. That's the best I can do.

                     

                    Best regards,

                     

                    Tony

                     

                    Tony Antoniou,

                    Managing Director,

                    Psicraft Designs, Inc.

                        • ballzar Just Startin' 4 posts since
                          Jan 26, 2007
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                          Feb 25, 2010 3:42 PM (in response to PsicraftTony)
                          Re: News on the MacBook Problem?

                          I have a Macbook Pro, Vyzex won't even run, crashes every time I try and start.  Did the uninstall procedure you

                          outlined in a previous post.  Didnt fix anything. So, what is the bottom line with this issue?  Are Macbook users screwed?  Would

                          have never bought this if I've known there were issues.  Went through this same stuff when I first got my gearbox,

                          and it still isnt perfect.  Getting a little untrusting of the Line 6 software.

                          • PsicraftTony Iknowathingortwo 243 posts since
                            Jun 22, 2007
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                            Feb 25, 2010 4:17 PM (in response to ballzar)
                            Re: News on the MacBook Problem?

                            I just answered your other post on this topic at: http://line6.com/community/message/123665 . Please respond there and we'll see about getting you going.

                             

                            Tony

                              • PsicraftTony Iknowathingortwo 243 posts since
                                Jun 22, 2007
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                                Sep 12, 2010 3:42 PM (in response to thinkdifferent)
                                Re: News on the MacBook Problem?

                                Hi Think,

                                 

                                Great to hear you are in business at last.

                                 

                                Your MacBook does upgrade its operating system on a regular basis, so we can't rule out a quiet fix on Apple's part. That said, you did upgrade the firmware on your PocketPOD, and I think Line6 may have changed one or two things in the way the USB port operates in that version in the name of stability but this is only a guess since Psicraft Designs is not privy to such details. I should also reiterate at this point that all the editor software can do is ask for a MIDI port from the hardware/firmware/operating system stack it is running on - This problem (like all other USB connectivity issues reported to this forum) was never the fault of the editor software, even though we do our best to help anyone with issues such as these since they prevent the editor from working.

                                 

                                All the best,


                                Tony

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