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skarulis Just Startin'
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Oct 7, 2010 11:29 AM

Vetta I flash upgrade 2.5 failure

I'm performing a flash version 2.50 upgrade to my Vetta I head using  the Line 6 Monkey application.

I registered the amp, and I sign  into support through Line 6 Monkey

Monkey does not detect my  Vetta, but I am sure the MIDI in and out cables are connected properly

I  perform the upgrade preparations steps and see the message "Ready for  software download"

I start the "Upgrade Vetta" in Monkey

after  a few seconds I see my Vetta screen change to read "Software download  in progress"

What I notice is that the Vetta screen prematurely  says that "Software download complete"

before Monkey is done  transmitting the upgrade, and even thought the Vetta believes the  transmission is done, Monkey is still not done yet.

When I press  Save to go back to normal nothing happens.

I turn off power then  on again and the screen is blank. The left LCD screen shows 7 black  squares.

 

I tested this on 3 different setups which  eliminate the possibility of the issue being my midi device or my midi  cables, and I am fairly certain

there is an issue with the amp  itself.

 

1. MAC Pro with OSX Snow Leopard 10.6  ,  MOTU  ATP USB, latest Line 6 Monke -  tried with all of the last 3 releases of  the flash starting with 2.5

2. Windows XP Pro sp2,   MOTU ATP USB, latest Line 6 Monkey,  flash 2.5

3. Windows Vista , MOTU ultraLite Mk3 , Line 6 Monkey, flash 2.5

 

At this point after making 20+ attempts I dont even care the version I just want a working amp  again.

Is there some factory fail safe hard code reset procedure I can do?

I read it is possible to upgrade a Vetta I head from another Vetta I or II head?  Couldnt I just eliminate root cause possibility of errors due to MIDI, Monkey app, computer etc

by bringing my amp somewhere I will plug it directly into another Vetta I or Vetta II and do the amp-to-amp upgrade?

  • ricksox UberGuru
    ricksox
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    Oct 8, 2010 11:47 AM (in response to skarulis)
    RE: Vetta I flash upgrade 2.5 failure

    Hello,

       

      Chances are it's your MIDI interface not handling the download correctly. If you're using an audio interface that happens to sport MIDI I/O then that's most likely the reason behind the failure.

       

      The Vetta firmware update is a beast of an update to perform via MIDI so dedicated MIDI to USB interfaces like the M-Audio MIDISports, Edirol UM-1X or the Yamaha UX16 work best.

       

      Devices like these are robust enough to handle the Vetta, M13, and M9 updates.

       

       

      Line6Miller

    • skarulis Just Startin'
      skarulis
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      Oct 24, 2008
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      Oct 8, 2010 7:13 PM (in response to ricksox)
      Re: RE: Vetta I flash upgrade 2.5 failure

      To anyone with issue doing the 2.5 flash upgrade to their Vetta via MIDI

      Today I bought the M Audio MIDI Sport Uno 1 x1   USB to MIDI at Guitar Center for $36 + tax = $40 

      and I was able to do the upgrade with Line 6 Monkey

      You will know its working because you wont get the message that the Software Download Complete

      until the software is done. You will see a flashing * asterik indicating the download it proceeding.

      It took me 5 - 10 minutes. I recommend saving time buy the MAudio MIDISport Uno !

    • zn8ke Just Startin'
      zn8ke
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      Feb 13, 2011 11:45 PM (in response to ricksox)
      Re: RE: Vetta I flash upgrade 2.5 failure

      Hi

       

      I have exactly the same problem as the threadmaker. I have the EDIROL UM-1EX midi cable (which according to you guys should work)

      but I have tried and tried and I still get stuck. I had the 2.5 firmware but my amp (a Vetta II) was acting up so I thought I'd reflash it to make

      it response better. I am now stuck with a useless amp that's fixed into a blank screen. My line6 monkey tells me the firmware is installed

      but that it cannot recognise it.

      There should'nt be a problem with my USD to MIDI interface because I flashed my Vetta with it 2 years ago and it worked back then.

       

      I am asking(like the tread owner) if there is an other HARD RESET one can do on the VETTA? Like holding down certain buttons to try and

      jumpstart it or "zero out" whatever crap that's in there? Mind you I cannot use the LCD screen since I cannot see anything on it.

       

      Some help would be appriciated

      zn8ke

      ps Thought I'd write on this thread and not start one similar - sorry if that is a misstake ds

      • sliding_billy Just Startin'
        sliding_billy
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        Feb 14, 2011 3:39 AM (in response to zn8ke)
        Re: RE: Vetta I flash upgrade 2.5 failure

        I know that Miller mentioned the Edirol by name, and it along with the Yamaha will likely work for editing and such.  However, I can tell you from experience and years of others' experience being shared that the only really trustworthy (and reasonable) device for the flash update is the MidiSport Uno.  Speed of midi data and packet size can be funny things when it comes to large amounts of passage like a flash, but the Uno has proven its compatibility time and time again.

         

        Chris

        • zn8ke Just Startin'
          zn8ke
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          Feb 14, 2011 8:22 AM (in response to sliding_billy)
          Re: RE: Vetta I flash upgrade 2.5 failure

          Thanks for your response Chris.

           

          I did try with a M-Audio Midisport 2X2 as well but to no avail (surely that must be "big enough"?)

          http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MIDISPORT2x2.html

           

          I have taken the damn thing to a repair shop and they will have to take a look at it. My patience ran out and although I think you must be right I suspect it has something to do with one of the following things as well:

           

          • I flashed it 2 years ago but my computer was on 32 bits Leopard back then. It's not on 64 Snowleopard.
          • Wonder if the Vetta clashes with Line6 Edit. I have used it for the last 4 days and thats when I started to get these weird things*
          • The firmware for the Midi should be updated they say but I don't know if my installation made any difference
          • I updated Line 6 Edit 2 days ago from my Java 5 workaround thing to the one that works in Java 6.

           

          I bet that any of the above or all together has made my Vetta p****d off with my mac and refuses to cooperate

           

           

          *the weird stuff (that made me want to flash the firmware again) was that the "treble button" was moving by itself (like a nervous muscle) which made the "Save" button constantly orange as if I had changed anything. I bet a buck that was created by Line 6 Edit and the crash that came when I tried to make a "hard reset" is down to Line 6 Edit, its new version and the fact that my mac is on Snowleopard and my Midi-Usb cable don't like that at all...

           

          regards

          N

          • zn8ke Just Startin'
            zn8ke
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            Feb 15, 2011 3:09 AM (in response to zn8ke)
            Re: RE: Vetta I flash upgrade 2.5 failure

            Last post (probably lol)

             

            Just to let you guys know. I took it to a guy with a M-Audio UNO card and a PC and it worked!

            It's been properly flashed and works again. This leads me to believe those of you that says that

            the UNO way is the only way! Weird since the ones I have worked 2 years ago so the only thing

            I can think of is a combination of "Old firmware" for my old USB MIDI cable though I did upgrade

            it it was acting up under the mac and the 64 bit snowleopard, and that my EDIROL UM - 1 EX

            cable does not work with leopard and 64 bits (can anyone confirm that? Jus tfor fun I mean...)

             

            Now do I dare try to flash it again from home with my new M-Audio cable that I bought or shall I

            just leave it? (future will tell but at one stage I am going to try)

             

            Thanks 4 sound in Stockholm for helping me!

            Nick

            ps. since the latest FW for the UNO card is from september 2009 I for granted that my new UNO

            will work "straight out of the box". Is there actually any need to install driver or is it PlugnPlay

            • sliding_billy Just Startin'
              sliding_billy
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              Feb 15, 2011 3:38 AM (in response to zn8ke)
              Re: RE: Vetta I flash upgrade 2.5 failure

              There have been two versions (different hardware) of the Uno.  The old one (that worked on XP) used drivers.  The newer one (that works on Vista and 7) is plug-and-play.  Sorry, but I can't speak to Mac recognition.  I would check the M-Audio website FAQ.

               

              Chris

               

              P.S. Glad it worked!

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