Dec 13, 2010 6:13 PM
Pod HD500 Power Supply
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I stepped on my power supply where it connects to the HD500. It bent the plug enough that it will not stay connected. I realize that Line6 doesn't have the individual Power Supplies for sale yet....so what are my options? I found a DC 9V 2.5 amp power supply but the barrel connector appears to be an odd size.
you could contact L6 support. they may be able to supply you one. or get hold of a universal 9VDC 2.5A (I think it's 2.5 or 3 Amps, but the POD HD will say on the bottom what it needs) with the multiple plugs that you select whi is wight. those usually have enough choice.
something like this would probably be fine: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=48517
Rowbi, thanks for the response...but I tried a "universal" power supply that had probably 20 difffernt barrel connector sizes to choose from and none of them fit. I have also tried L6 customer support and they don't have any to send out. I guess every power supply they have available is being shipped with a new HD500.
I can vouch for the one Rowbi referenced. I have one as a spare and it works fine. However it is UK input voltage only.
Nick
I ordered one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350323573744
I don't have it yet, but from the description the plug size is correct. Here are the specs:
1 AC input voltage ……100-240VAC, Output ………9V 3A Up to 27W
2 Input frequency ………47-63Hz
3 AC inrush current(max.) …….20A/230V
4 Plug Tip size.......5.5/2.5/12mm
5 4Line regulation (full load).......±0.5%
6 Peak- to -peak ripple …….<100MV
7 Working temperature………….0-35℃@100%,50℃@70% load
8 Setup rise hold up time………100ms,50ms,20ms@240VAC input
9 Oem compatible part, safety standards………UL CCC FCC GS
10 Over voltage protection………115%-135% rated output voltage
11 Withstand voltage………I/P-O/P 3Kvac,1 minute
12 Over load protection ………115%-135%fold back current limiting, Auto-recovery
Paul, are you sure that it fits? I looked for the size of the connector on the original power supply and couldn't find it anywhere...
I measured the original one and it seems to be the same. I won't know for sure until the new one arrives.
So did that aftermarket power supply work? I would like to have a backup.
I found a power supply at Radio Shack that works, but I only use it when absolutely necessary.
I replaced my bent power supply with one from Line 6.
I used my Pod X3 Live on it by accident and it worked, I just asked Rowbi by e-mail if that is a good idea waiting his reply
The answer is no....stop using it!!
Use only the correct one..period...you risk doing serious damage to your HD....
OM
X3 didn't work for me. After about 30 minutes playing it overheated and started swithing the unit on and off.
Hi,
Apparently the Parts Administrator advised us that replacement power supply units for POD HD500's are available for "special order" through our dealers as of today.
Please contact your local dealer (Guitar Center, Sam Ash, etc.) and have the sales associate place a special order for one.
Regards,
L6Perry
L6 Perry...
Thanks for the response. I will do exactly that...
So whats the verdict here? I too need a power supply for HD500. Do I have to order and wait weeks to get it from Line 6 or is there a definative aftermarket supply someone has found here in the states that works? I need to get my unit up and running and can't (don't want to) wait too long.
HC,
I had gigs to play and bills to pay, so I had to do something.. I found this solution at radio shack
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3807940
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3875404&numProdsPerPage=60
The specs match up with the original power supply (9V 2.5 amp). I put it on the 9V setting and put a piece of tape on it so it wouldn't move. I used this for a short period of time while I waited for a Line 6 power supply. I am now using the original Line6 power supply and will only use this as a backup if needed. Someone posted above that the X3 Live PS works. The problem is the X3 Live PS is underpowered (I think it's 1.5 amp). Under powering the HD500 could be as damaging as over powering it.
Disclaimer..... I am NOT an electrical engineer. I come from the school of hard knocks and tough breaks. For the 5-6 gigs that I played over a 2-3 week period, the above solution did not cause any apparent damage.
Proceed at your own RISK..
thats good to know...now if I could just find a female-male extension cable for the original power adapter so I don' t have to have it plugged in within 5 feet of me.
Yes, you are correct that someone posted their HD500 worked very briefly with the old X3 Live PSU.
This is NOT a solution. DON'T use the old PX2 power supply - these output 9v AC at 2000mA. The HD500 requires 9v DC at a minimum of 2500mA (2.5A) with centre negative.
The PX2 power supply may have worked for a very brief period for the guy that tried it - I'm not really sure why - there must be something in the HD500 that provides some kind of rectification from AC to DC - I'm not sure whether this is intended or whether it's the by-product of something in the input section, but this is NOT the intended use - trust me - I checked this out with Line 6 after reading the first guy's experience and it is a big No-No. Prolonged use of a PSU that outputs 9v AC will cause damage - another guy on this forum found that out to his cost a few months ago. The first guy only tried it briefly - i.e for a minute or two - and got away with it fortunately for him, but I strongly advise that you don't try it yourself!! If you did, your warranty would probably be invalidated
Nick
So can you do it the other way around and use the HD500 power supply with the M13?
frankencat wrote:
So can you do it the other way around and use the HD500 power supply with the M13?
Don't risk it. I'm not saying it won't work - depends on the internal rectifier circuit and components and how it's assembled and connected .
The M13 requires 9v AC.
The simple rule is to ALWAYS use the correct power supply as supplied with the unit. I'm not sure why anyone would want to use a power supply that clearly isn't intended for the job and uses a different standard from that intended and specified by the manufacturer when there's a risk of damaging the equipment it's going to power.
Nick
Oh I missed that, I thought they were both DC. My bad. Carrry on.
P.S. The reason I would want to do it because the old Line 6 PX-2 power supplys SUCK with a capital SUCK. The RF field around those things is large enough to be used as a signal jammer for enemy aircraft. ![]()
BTW... HD 500 original is 3 Amps, not 2.5. The old 2 Amp didn't work for me. I had the same experience which Nick described.
I got a 6 foot extension cord and cut it in half. I then replaced the end with a replacement end from Home Depot. This allow me to extend the length of the power cord and place the power adapter out of the way. Also I can fold it up in my case with out much trouble. if needed you could tape the plug in place.
I don't want to beat a dead horse but as I understand it - NO Person has found an aftermarket PSU that works with line 6 HD500. The only answer is to special order this thing from Line six and wait several weeks for it to get here. Is this correct?
As an alternative you could buy one from Thomann online (one of the biggest German dealers) for 16,90 Euros:
http://www.thomann.de/de/line6_dc_3_g.htm?feedid=207
Neither do I know where you live nor what you have to pay if you buy it from Line6 directly.
Keep in mind that the minimum Thomann order value amounts to 25 Euros - if you need something else to fill up the minimum value, fine.
I live in the UK and I have found an aftermarket PSU that definitely works with the HD500: http://www.maplin.co.uk/ac-dc-multi-voltage-4a-switched-mode-power-supply-48517
It works well. It has interchangeable tips and multiple voltage settings as well as being a 4 Amp. It is rated at 100v - 240v AC input voltage. The PSU was on special offer when I got mine a few months ago.
However, you should be able to get a spare of the genuine POD HD PSU from your Line 6 retailer.
Nick
HC,
If you are waiting on someone from Line6 to say it's OK to use a PSU other than the one that comes with it, then it's not going to happen. I don't know if I can say it any other way than I did above. The solution I found at Radio Shack works. As far as I can tell, It did not damage my HD500. That being said, I am not an electrical engineer...so if it does damage your HD500 Line6 will probably not repair it under warranty.
Proceed at your own risk...
I am also looking for an aftermarket adapter, but not because I've lost mine, which is working fine.
I need the adapter, because the Line6 power adapter is one of the poorest designs I have ever seen. The cable is too short and the plug itself is ridiculously long. It either takes up 3 or 4 outlets if the plugs run one way, or it hangs out so far that it is unstable and a hazard for someone to step on and break (as the original poster has found.)
How can you spend countless hours designing and perfecting everything down to the nth degree with the unit itself, then stick a crappy power cable in almost as an afterthought? Rhetorical question, of course. I really like the sounds I'm getting out of this device, but Line6 should be embarrassed that users are having to cut home depot extension cords and customize power solutions just to be able to use their hot new device. And they should be willing to work with us to improve it.
I'm trying to get my HD500 to fit into a Gator Gig Box, and everything is great except the power adapter which either hangs off of the edge of the board or takes up too many spaces on the power strip.
So please don't give us the scare tactics about voiding warranties using aftermarket power solutions. If you aren't going to give us a decent power adapter from Line 6, at least have the decency to test a couple of the aftermarket units and tell us they work and won't damage our HDs. That is a very reasonable request, especially considering the god-awful design we're stuck with.
I'm done whining for now, but one last question. Will my POD XT power adapter (long cable, transformer in the middle, normal plug - hey, who thought of THAT design?) work on the HD500 without causing damage?
Greg, I don't know who you think I am, but I do NOT work for Line6! I did not design anything! I am not the one using "scare tactics" it's Line 6! If you have a problem with Line 6 I suggest you take it up with them and not some bass player (ME) that is pretending to play guitar who purchased an HD 500 and was stupid enough to step on the connector and bend the crap out of it.
I found a solution and pointed it out to someone who needed it and then told them what Line 6 told me....
Take it up with Line6Perry... I think he works for Line6
LOL
Sorry, dude, those remarks weren't aimed at you in particular at all. I didn't think you worked for Line6, I was just blowing off steam about their crappy cable design in your thread.
I should have just started a new thread about the crappy design, but I figure that's probably been beat to death already and I really just want a solution.
So now I can spend another $50 on a radio shack power cord and adapter, or I can buy a cheesy extension cord, cut it up, and rig a cable and hope it won't look horrible and bulky in my gig box. Or I can take it back to the store before my 30 days run out and find another solution that fits my gig box without all of these gyrations. Or just go back to my Pod XT.
Cheers,
Greg
Greg,
No worries, I just didn't want you to think that I could actually do something about it. I completely agree with you! Actually, I wish they could put the transformer in the box so that all you need is a power cable, but I do actually know enough about manufacturing electronics to know that it's expensive, it take up a lot of space, and adds heat to put the transformer in the box.
I am not sure you're going to like the "wall wart" PSU from Radio Shack much better. It's HUGE, but it does work...
Texas Strat- thanks for the heads up. I went and picked up a PSU from radio shack. Seemed to do the trick for now until I can get one from line 6.
Hi,
I lost my power chord for HD500 and I needed a power chord. Is there a place I can buy ?
Thanks
Anand
I have the same situation. I found that the power supply for Pod HD 500 would sell for $50 from my local store. I think this price is ridiculous!
Why is Line-6 not fixing this power adapter issue? $50 solution is no solution!
Looking at this thread, I see that people (including me) are wasting time discussing a power adapter solution. Can Line-6 do better than this?
Also, the length of original adapter is too short as everybody complained about. HD 500 is great but if I knew about the this issue I wouldn't have bought it.
For those who have a POD HD unit conected to a DT amp - why not have the power supplied to the POD HD unit via the L6 link connection. Sort of like the Vetta sent power to the FBV longboard via the RJ-45 coable connection?
I guess this also goes along with why when you have all three pieces of the dream connected with VDI and L6 Link - that only the JTV unit is recognized by Monkey when trying to update all the gear. Why are the DT amps excluded from being recognized when these units are designed to communicate tons of info back and forth? Does this make any sense to anyone?
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