Apr 28, 2009 4:06 AM
anyone used the M13 with 2 combo's ?
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I have 2 Fender Deluxe Combo's and having just bought an M13 wondered if I only want to use it as a FX unit in the loop can i use both combo's send and returns and get a huge sound in stereo via the stereo ins and outs. All this without a ground loop? Anyone tried anything similar?
Yes you can. I've done it at several gigs with several different amps (mostly 2 completely different amps) and it sounds great. I'm just guessing, but if you're talking about the Hot Rod Deluxe then you have the preamp out and power amp in for your loop and it will work nicely. No parallel nonsense to get things out of phase. You can also run stereo out to the front end of the amps if you want to use compression and some of the modulations feel better in front of the amp.
+1 to KozMcCharlie
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Line6Hugo
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That sparks several interesting question about waveforms the m13 creates.
If I run a distortion mod Left and Right out to two different amps, does the m13 generate
two distinct waveforms that are sent to the two amps, or is the Right a copy (or double) of the Left?
In other words, when running mono/in, mono/out, am I "missing" the one side of a stereo waveform being
created, OR is running mono a sum of the stereo waveform being created?
Tag-along question, is it not truly "stereo" until you run into the m13 input Left and right?
I think the only time you would really be missing anything are when you're using the effects have a true stereo separation. I'm thinking things like the stereo delay, ping pong delay, panner, panned phaser, and a few others. Most of the effects when they are run in stereo have identical left and right signals. For things like distortions, there is definitely no difference between the left and right sides.
phil_m wrote:
I think the only time you would really be missing anything are when you're using the effects have a true stereo separation. I'm thinking things like the stereo delay, ping pong delay, panner, panned phaser, and a few others. Most of the effects when they are run in stereo have identical left and right signals. For things like distortions, there is definitely no difference between the left and right sides.
I use a Vox AC30H2 (Handwired) - Left Output and a Fender Blues Jr Anniversary Edition - Right Output... works like a charm - especially with true stereo FX...
Even running the two amps simultaneous and incorporating their unique personalities while running the top notch FX on the M13 is fantastic!
Big fan here of the M13! I also use the X3 Live for recording and love it!
Cheers All! Peeler
I use two Kustom Defender 50W all-tube combos. I've tried them in stereo setup (left & right output) and also with the FX send & left output combination. In this case I can determine how many FX belong to each amp. Usually I set the FX send after FX3, so the delay/reverb in the FX4 doesn't disturb my main sound which goes from Left Output.
And if you want to use 3 amps simultaneously, just add another amp to he Right Output. Voila
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