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Zhorell Just Startin'
Zhorell
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Jun 2, 2011 9:39 AM

HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

Finally got my HD500! It sounds great on my QSC K10's!! I hooked it up on my Egnater tweaker with 4x10 celestion G10's, it sounded bad?

What's the proper way to set HD500 goin' thru a tube amp? I disabled the cab sim.. still sounded bad..

  • fingerscaraballo Just Startin'
    fingerscaraballo
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    Jun 2, 2011 10:01 AM (in response to Zhorell)
    Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

    Does the Egnater have an effect loop? if yes then you can bypass the preamp section by conecting the HD outputs to the Effect loop returns, set your output to PWR/Stack  and turn the cab sim off.

    If not you have to go the other way using one of the HDs  output ( left or right ) to the amps input and set the output acordingly 

    • mabbaticchio Just Startin'
      mabbaticchio
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      Jun 2, 2011 10:06 AM (in response to fingerscaraballo)
      Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

      You will need to redo all your tones if you are going to run through a tube amp.   I have a Mark IV and did not like the reults of running the HD into the series loop return.  From everything I gathered usually those running through tube amps and liking it are using cleaner amps or older atomic reactors which are designed for modeling. 

    • Zhorell Just Startin'
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      Jun 2, 2011 2:28 PM (in response to fingerscaraballo)
      Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

      I'm hooking it thru the effects loop of the amp. disabled the cab sim still sounds bad?

      I don't remember If I set output properly though? I'll try it again tonite.. how do you disable the mic sim btw?

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    fingerscaraballo
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    Jun 2, 2011 10:20 AM (in response to Zhorell)
    Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

    I would invest on a Crate Power Block If I was you use your cab with the power block, it sounds awesome and its cheap and easy to log around.  is less than $200.00

    I do own a Carvin 100 tube power amp but the create sounds better with the HD

  • Zhorell Just Startin'
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    Jun 3, 2011 5:45 PM (in response to Zhorell)
    Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

    When cab sims are disabled, does the mic sims disabled too? can't seem to find the way to turn off mic sims..

  • Zhorell Just Startin'
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    Aug 12, 2011 9:58 AM (in response to Zhorell)
    Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

    Tried it on my newly purchase amp Randall RM22 head, it sounded MONSTROUS!! I guess the presence and density on the power amp does the trick better than my Eggy Tweaker (which I sold)!! I don't think I'd be gassing for those Randall MTS Modules for now, I have some wicked sounding preamp from my HD500

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      Aug 13, 2011 10:16 AM (in response to Zhorell)
      Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

      Do you use full amp sims or just the preamp sims?

       

      I connected my HD500 to a MesaBoogie Satellite and I think the preamp sims sounded best in this setup.

    • wetredbox Just Startin'
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      May 21, 2012 2:09 PM (in response to Zhorell)
      Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

      glad to hear this, I have an RM50 combo on its way.  going to run the 500 through the RM50 and use the combo speaker along with a cabinet.  I am expecting a wall of loud and good

       

      funny thing is, the 500 through my old 6L6 gibson head without a master volume sounds awesome too, even with full amp sims.  must be all the headroom.  I was dreaming last night about modules though...isn't that a pisser?...dreaming about equipment

    • wetredbox Just Startin'
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      Jun 5, 2012 5:13 PM (in response to Zhorell)
      Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

      what speakers are you using for this?  i have a RM50 combo and it does not sound so good using the 4cm.  any help woul dbe appreciated.  I love the MTS thing and I like the HD preamps in other situations, not loving it on the Randall

  • jimsreynolds Power User
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    May 22, 2012 12:08 AM (in response to Zhorell)
    Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

    You need to change the output mode from 'Studio Direct' to 'Combo Power' or 'Stack Power'.  This activates 'live' cabinet simulations and disables the microphones.  Output mode can be found within the setup options.

     

    Unlikely that your Studio direct tones will work well with a tube amp.  May be worth maintaining a second set of patches.  I use set lists to separate out my patches.  I group on 'effects only/4CM', 'Into tube amp FX return' and 'into PA'.

  • holeshot1982 Just Startin'
    holeshot1982
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    May 22, 2012 4:26 AM (in response to Zhorell)
    Re: HD500 thru a Tube Amp?

    I would try to build a patch from the ground up instead of trying to use a preset or patch downloaded from custom tone.... I've found mabye 1 or 2 that sound OK without much tweaking through my amp..... I'm running through a Egnater Rebel 30 and get great sounds with both the full & pre models..... Make sure you do switch output mode to Combo Power or Stack Power, that makes a HUGE difference!

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