It appears that L6 are just digging a bigger and bigger hole in which to bury both the DOOMED and FAILED release of PF 2.5 (& VRS 2.51) along with their reputation. Just admit it the whole thing dont work and you have just wasted everyone's time. I bought into PF because I liked the versions 1.12 and 2.02 but maybe the 2.5 & 2.51 were just a step too far. Why tell us the problems are fixed when they are not. This is a serious downgrade in sound quality. I have been stating all the time they need to look into the Driver Issues yet they do a new release of 2.5 in the form of 2.51 and its still got the same Driver issues it had in 2.5. L6 are clearly not listening and neither are the technicians who answer these threads. What gave L6Dom the right to suggest a fix that clearly doesn't work & that he oviously hasn't used because if he had he would know that there are still sound issues with this version.. We deserve something thats tested and that works. Its simply not good enough! I HAVE A BUSY LIFE I DONT NEED TO BE TAKING PART IN PRODUCT RESEARCH. WHEN I BUY INTO A PRODUCT I EXPECT IT TO MAKE MY LIFE SIMPLER NOT MORE COMPLICATED. MY ADVICE TO L6 IS DONT TAKE YOUR CUSTOMERS FOR MUGS.

Went Back to 2.02 and 1.12. Dual tones dont seem to work in the 2.02 or not very well at all no matter what drivers I use and I have tried them all. However Dual Tonein 1.12 with the same Drivers works perfectly normal without any problems. Its difficult to tell if the problem with 2.02 has always been there because I haven,t used it before. My feelings are that it should work as well as it does in 1.12 but it just dont. 

Line6David - you may wish to study my last reply to Kelvis360 although it seems that some of our issues are different they both are sound related. I am only connecting the L6 hardware UX1. PF1.12 works absolutely fine in the same UsB port but when I bring any version of PF2 into the equation I get sound issues. In PF2.02 its only when i select Dual Tone otherwise its great. With any version of 2.5 is total corruption. Yes I am changing the drivers each time in my UX to the drivers related ( or that came with those Programs). I have tried other driver combinations such as those that come with PF 1.12 with PF2 and this seems to work better than the drivers that came bundled with 2.02 itself. however the same issue with the dual Tone is still there no matter what. 2.5 just coughs and splutters no matter what I use. All the time though the PF1.12 remains absolutely solid with no issues. I am not using a Usb hub. My Computer is a Toshiba AMD I believe Dual Core dont know the sound card may be Turion64 or something. The Computer is equim A210 or something. never given me any issues i use all sorts of programms like Cakewalk Sonar, Cakewalk Studio instruments all sorts but hardly ever atr the same time as PF. when I have been having these issues the only thing plugged in the UX1 running a single version of Pf. I dont even have my DAW running because I mainly use the Standalone version. Is there any chance of Support Ticket for these issues given that we have already gone through all the recommended fixes? Oh yes I have done all that increasing the size of the Buffers etc and used the highest settings but it did not work either. One thing that may be significant is that if you unplug usb then replug it in whilst using 2.02 in Dual Tone the sound partially returns but again only very briefly. It degrades again soon after.

News in - Studying some other discussions post 2.51 i am relieved but still dissappointed to hear that I am not alone with the 2.5 and 2.51 sound issues in Standalone. I dont know how common it is but for some at least these issues remain a Problem Post 2.51

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L6David - as i already said to Vries surely the software should work without the need for me to make changes to the settings such as Sample Rate

Vries - thanks for the reply. Surely the PF2.5 & others come with a standard set of values in relation to sampling rate. I really dont have much clue as to why I should deviate from this. I understand your arguement for the 16 bit rate that makes sennse but i dont know enough about resetting sampling rates to be sure what I am doing and really why I would be doing it. Surely it should just work 'out of the Box ' so to speak without me having to do too much messin about. I never had to mess about with PF1.12 which still works like a dream and that has a pre set up sample rate thats served me some years. Any more thoughts?

 

Later Steve Townend said about the drivers

My latest wierdness is that when I try to rienstall the drivers, the installer package for 4.2.4.4 puts in 4.1.1.7.  What the hell is going on?

 

 

You really have to ask what the Hell is going on here? Where did those drivers come from? This could be the result of of the Whole Unistall function not working correctly, leaving legacies all over the place

Line6Hugo - sorry I cannot at this time see any evidence in my account of the Support Ticket you are referring to.

Got 2.02 working sweet. Tried 2.51 . Firstly my saved download just stopped responding all the time when it gets to the bit connect to internet to let C++ redistributable work. tried 3 or 4 times all the same. Did a download of New version Monkey which then ,when I used it ,kept on telling me that it could not connect with L6 Server said it was downloding when it clearly wasn,t.  After about 1hr and half of trying gave up and put 2.02 back on system. oh and yes my Internet Connection was working all the time as i tried it to make sure. It also appears that the Licence Manager was on the system as a result of the Monkey download. again these dont seem to be speaking to one another . It appears to me that each time the Licence manager is on the system there is a conflict. i think I will have to face it this version of PF just dont want to work with me or my equipment. i can see no reason for the program exe not to work in the way it was intended without having all these problems. all other saved versions of the PF are able to work from the program exe setup request but this one refuses to behave in a similar fashion. One other thing I did before i got New Monkey was to try to update and older version of Monke. I think i had 1.4. before the newest version. when I did the update to Monkey it took absolutely ages. i decided to abadon it at half way as it had altready taken almost 30 mins by then. i went to the L6 site and got the New version of Monkey 1.41 in a matter of 2 mins flat.

just thought I would add this which is a reply to sound issues I posted into another discussion -

I managed to get 2.02 working without sound issues. I did this by working through all the recommended Tweaks for Windows & Vista PCs. One that made the most difference but was not included in the tweaks was the Disable Wireless Adapter done in the Device manger section of Windows. That has made alot of improvements for me. it solved the issues I was having in Dual Tone when using the Global Gate and A/B buttons. i thought that this might help for when I moved back up to 2.51. however when i have tried to load and exe the 2.51 programme i am running into difficulties in getting it to load onto my system. this seems like a new problem now and so far i have had no sucess but wasted alot of time on it. I really dont know whether I really want the 2.51 now as 2.02 works so sweetly. My advice to you if yyou are on Windows based platform would be try the tweaks. Some are not for me like disabling User Control and switching off Screen Saver however some are good such as switching off Indexing  etc.

Did a reinstall of the Pf2.51. Due to problems with C++ redistribuatble L6 Hugo suggested that I leave out the RTAS sections as they were not essential. Did this & got it onto the computer. Tried Standalone did work slightly better than before. Less Pops and hicupps. But some remain whereas 2.02 has none at all. Problems again are worse when using a Global Gate with A/B. Tried settings with different size of Buffers but nothing worked that well there was always some pops & hicupps but much less than before probably due to the tweaks I have worked through. Nothing gets rid of them all & thats what makes 2.02 superior because it doesn,t put you off while you are playin. Tried Plug ins with my DAW and these all work perfectly. Confusin ain,t it! Yes they worked with no pops at all. Therefore in my HUMBLE OPINION I HAVE AGAIN TO START SUSPECTING THESE DRIVERS THE 4.2.4.4. These are used to communicate with my UX1 and this is where I have the problems in Standalone when I am not communicating with the UX1 then things run smoothly.

Yruama - your English is good my friend. I understand. What version of Podfarm have you been using is it 2.5, 2.51 or 2.02? My issues with the A/B  & A+B plus the gate seem to have stopped since I did the tweaks and in particular the tweak related to the Wifi card but that only applies to use of Podfarm 2.02. However my sound issues with 2.51 continue even after the tweaks made.

Have to ask what is DPC as i have said I am not too much into Computers other than what i have had to pick up to use Podfarm. I have done a Latency monitoring as advised and that turned up that my computer appeared to be ok to use for direct sound monitoring