Jul 9, 2011 2:08 AM
jtv and x3l via vdi
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hi there, I recently got my jtv59 and so far I am quite happy with it. only I can't seem to get it connected to the pod x3 live via vdi. vdi will supply the guitar with power to run the models, but neither the pod x3l nor gearbox will recognize a variax. both firmware and drivers are up to date. also, the Variax adapter that came with the guitar (rj45 to usb) won't work with the vdi, a normal ethernet cable is required. still, workbench won''t recognize the jtv, neither through the adapter nor through the pod. - what should I do?
take a look at this thread
http://line6.com/community/message/248739#248739
a brief summary from other's answers:
js_282 wrote:
make sure you have the newest firmware on your X3L.
Press the "Input" menu button.
Change "Tone 1" to be "Variax CH1" and change "Tone 2" to be "Variax CH2".
That will route the models to your first amp chain and magnetics to the second.
and
edstar1960 wrote:
I have an X3 Live with the latest firmware and it definitely allows a choice of Variax Ch1 or Variax Ch2.
However, the latest version of GEARBOX does NOT show these choices.
So to pick different Variax Channels I have to manually set the Input choice on the X3 Live itself.
helped me figure out what was going on with my JTV and X3L
thanks for your reply,
i still can't get it to work. there is no sound at all when the jtv is connected to the x3l through a vdi.
i also tried to follow some advice from a german board, which indicated that on the input page, i should go to "don't force model" and then use the left hand knob to choose the jtv - only i don't have that option on my input page. i rolled back to firmware 2.00 and updated to 2.01, to no avail. is there something wrong with my x3l or perhaps with the jtv?
Hey kopp_m,
That sounds like an issue with your POD X3 Live. If you press the "INPUTS" button it will take you to the page that you can configure your inputs for the POD X3 Live. If it is running the latest firmware 2.01 you should be able to roll the first knob to the left underneath the screen until Tone 1 indicates Variax CH1. CH1 is the models, CH2 is the magnetic pick ups.
Try reinstalling the latest flash memory one more time, only this time put the POD X3 Live into safe mode before launching Line 6 Monkey. To launch the POD X3 Live into safe mode, power the unit off. Hold the down navigation key to the right of the LED screen as you power on the POD X3 Live. If done properly the LED will read "UPDATE FLASH". At this point launch monkey and reinstall latest flash memory.
Once the POD X3 Live is updated, all you need to do is connect the JTV using the VDI connection and then set up your inputs for whichever channel of the variax you would like to use.
Gearbox has not been recently updated since the release of the JTVs so it does not support assigning a variax guitar model to a preset.
I had the same problem when I first got my JTV and went through all the steps to solve it that other posters have given here only to find out I had a bad VDI cable (it was a brand new cable).
One way to check that is take the cable that came with your JTV that plugs into the USB converter. It's the same kind of cable (cat5) without the metal casing one end and plug it in and see if you get sound. If so you need to replace the VDI cable.
when I try to set up the "input" configuration to support vdi input from the jtv, it looks something like this (see attachment)
I understand that this could indicate a faulty vdi, a faulty jtv or a faulty socket with the x3l. however, I do have problems connecting the jtv with workbench (different cable, different device: computer) so I assume that most likely the problem lies with the electronics or the interface of the jtv.
Hey kopp_m,
Did you try to reinstall the latest flash memory while using "Safe mode" on your POD X3 live? If not can you please give that a try.
The problem is not with the JTV at all, the POD X3 live does not need to have a JTV connected for you to be able to configure these input settings.
Keep spinning encoder know 1 and 2 to the right until you have reached the end, Variax CH1 and CH2 are the last two options.
thanks, I reinstalled 2.01 in safe mode and dialled to variax ch1 and ch2 on the input page. I get what you see in the attached pic. The lower half of the page, where I would set the models for the patch, is not visible. I was surprised you said that the x3l doesn't need a jtv present to set up the input, since a member of a german line6 message board stated specifically that the lower half of the input page disappears when he unplugs the vdi. on his x3l (when the jtv is connected via vdi) the screen looks like this: http://www.line6forum.com/download/file.php?id=3820&sid=5abfe7e00b65bb748314a428ffeedac1 - that's what I am aiming for too.
As I said, I didn't expect that it's possible to configure jtv/vdi input with no jtv present - too bad I can't test that right now, my jtv went back to the dealer for inspection of the electronics. I started another thread here http://line6.com/community/message/297136#297136 - mentioning that my jtv couldn't keep a workbench connection up for more than a second. I assume the two problems are related and trace back to faulty electronics or faulty vdi interface, since they occur on different cables with different counterparts.
Hey kopp_m,
Just to clarify, I did not mention anything about the JTV model configuration options being present without the JTV connected. I was simply referring to input selections for Variax CH1 and CH2 because you were unable to bring up these input sources. You were concerned that it was a problem with the JTV. Once you connect a JTV to the POD X3 live, it should display the model configuration options as illustrated in the link you provided.
They could potentially be related, but lets wait to see what the Service Center says after assessing the guitar.
so after a very long series of sending the JTV back and forth my retailer finally replaced it and I got a brand new JTV59TSB. Even this brand new model I can't get to work with my POD X3 live. Updating the JTV through Monkey and messing with tones on Workbench works perfectly fine, so the JTV's interface seems to be allright.
So I tried to play the JTV on the POD X3 live through the VDI: I went throught every POD X3 live firmware version available and tried updating both in regular and in safe mode several times. No matter what version or mode: The lower half of the input page won't show, it looks just like "Foto0119.jpg" four posts up.
Interestingly enough, the JTV recieves power from the POD X3 live: When connected through both the VDI and the 1.4", I can select models and tunings with no battery inserted and I will hear them when the POD is set to guitar input. There is absolutely no sound when I set it to Variax input. I assume, the VDI cable is fine, too?
But how come the POD X3 live will supply the JTV with power but not see it on that input page? What can I do about it?
I use my JTV-59 with my X3L, and have no problems with it playing through the VDI input. The assignment of inputs can be set up per individual patch. I sometimes use an Ovation acoustic/electric on the Aux In, my other backup electric on Guitar In, and the Variax on the VDI input. I shut off the Aux In on all patches except the ones I set up for the Ovation specifically, as it is plugged in & on the stand for most of the gig. Shutting off the Aux input for the electric guitar patches ensures that the acoustic doesn't feed back when just sitting there. You might want to check the settings for your patches to see if any of them have the VDI inputs shut off...
Sounds like problems are possible with your X3L. Do you have any friends with a X3L that use the VDI you try your JTV on? The VDI of the X3L may have something wrong, but I'd be surprised...
Just some thoughts.
Dave
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