Currently Being ModeratedAug 25, 2011 11:57 AM (in response to JB1973)Re: master setting parameter in full sims
If you want to operate the amp at a level at home or at practice where the output tubes are also being exercised as they probably would in a gig situation, you can use an attenuator which takes the output of the amp in place of the speaker, and this then has an output which can usually be switched to attenuate the level being fed to the speaker. I have an old Marshall SE100 rack mountable Speaker Emulator which provides a DI output as well as an attenuated speaker level signal - attenuation is either 0dB, -6dB, -12dB or -18dB and that means that the amp is happy as it has what it thinks is a speaker load at 8 Ohms, and my neighbours are happy because i can turn the amp's Master Volume up to around 50% and still not rattle my windows let alone theirs. The Marshall SE100 is discontinued now, but it is based on a unit made by Groove Tubes. If you take a look in the DT50 support forum there is a discussion currently going on about Dr Z Airbrake speaker attenuators here: http://line6.com/support/message/262927#262927
Currently Being ModeratedAug 25, 2011 2:52 PM (in response to Nick_Mattocks)Re: master setting parameter in full sims
I have read and posted on the attenuator thread, just wish i could hear a posting of the difference or try one out before spending 200-400 on one. I lost a bid on a weber attenuator on ebay but still looking. It would make sense to try one before looking at a new rig, especially since the amps I am looking at are close to 2 grand....of course there is the used market for those as well. The attenuator may be the only solution or best solution to this.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 26, 2011 2:27 PM (in response to JB1973)Re: master setting parameter in full sims
well i was ready to give the attenuator a go, have it reserved and getting ready to ship, then just spent 2 1/2 hours messing with electronics due to weird cutting out noises, volume changes and reinstalling drivers and firmware. Not sure what I want to do at this point. I know I have spent at least 60% of my time tweaking instead of playing the last 7 months and its getting old. well back to seeing if i got this problem fixed.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 26, 2011 3:16 PM (in response to JB1973)RE: master setting parameter in full sims
+1 to Nick's response.
To really kick in the tubes of the DT50, you will need to crank the master while in full volume mode which will be LOUD. Just the nature of powerful tube amps. The new parameters in the HD500 amp models are indeed for an added level of tweaking to your sound.
An attenuator is your best bet. Good luck with being able to test one out before buying, though. Hopefully you could make an arrangement with a dealer.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 26, 2011 4:17 PM (in response to Line6Hugo)Re: RE: master setting parameter in full sims
it was very odd today/yesterday I started with just the guitar into the amp no hd and was able to crank it pretty good then compared it with just a preamp from the hd, cranking amp to about 75%. It was loud but made me think an attenuator was possible. Then today I did it again and the amp was not loud at all then super super loud then made funny noises etc etc. i figured it lost sync with the pedal somehow and rebooted stuff, still seemed out of wack (btw i had been going back and forth from no hd to hd to preamps to full amps allot... but apropriately) so redid firmware on both, ended up doing the amp twice, it seems back to normal now but definitely louder then last night. BTW going to class A seems louder not like I am going to a 25watt amp, although it does change tone. PC stopped being able to find my hd so had to reboot it too and it seemed to be somewhat locked up until after manual reboot.
since it has a volume and master volume, should i assume that the volume is preamp only and does not effect tubes but master only effect tube output, preamp only or amp by itself.
have a dr.z attenuator getting ready to ship, will decide this weekend if i am going that route for sure.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 30, 2011 4:11 PM (in response to JB1973)RE: master setting parameter in full sims
The Volume parameter on the HD500 is the Output level of the amp model you are using. The Master is the Amp Model's Master volume pushing the power amp of the model.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 2, 2011 11:01 AM (in response to JB1973)RE: master setting parameter in full sims
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