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bahgheera Just Startin'
bahgheera
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Jan 24, 2012 10:44 AM

Original Spider problems

Hi, I have an issue with my original Spider 1x12 that I bought brand new at least ten years ago. Here's the story.

 

I played it in the shop, and it sounded great. I absolutely fell in love with the thing. But those times I played this amp in the shop, the owner wouldn't let me crank it very loud. I suspect he knew what would happen if I did. I bought it, along with the FB-4 foot controller, and when I got it home, even then it sounded great. Because I played at normal 'radio' volume. As soon as I got the thing out with my band though, it was useless. This was because at a volume loud enough to be heard along with the drums and bass, the amp squeals like a banshee. I've tried many guitars over the years, from el-cheapos to high end Ibanez and Fenders, all with the same result.

 

I would like to know if there has ever been a software update or something to fix this. I'd like to know if I am alone with this problem. Because when Line 6 first came on the scene, I was ALL about Line 6. I loved the idea of software modeling and how you guys were going to revolutionize the amp market. But I just can't recommend any amp product simply because of my first experience. I know ten years later is a little late to complain, but I'd really just like to know if it's just the amp I bought or if everyone had the same problem I did. Thanks,

 

- baggy

  • bahgheera Just Startin'
    bahgheera
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    Jan 24, 2012 9:27 AM (in response to bahgheera)
    Re: Original Spider problems

    Dude... protip for Line 6 - when your customer clicks a link indicating he's sending a message to the company, best not to post it to a forum that EVERYONE CAN SEE after said customer has placed his telephone number and email address in said message. I mean... really? :/

    • fflbrgst Power User
      fflbrgst
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      Jan 24, 2012 10:09 AM (in response to bahgheera)
      Re: Original Spider problems

      Dude, I'm not sure where you think you were sending the message, but all indications are that you posted it directly in the support forums.  You can go back into the post and edit it to remove yyour contact info.

       

      Spider amps have come a long way since the first generation!  I suggest you go some place where you can crank up one of the Spider IVs and see what it sounds like.

  • bahgheera Just Startin'
    bahgheera
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    Jan 24, 2012 10:43 AM (in response to bahgheera)
    Re: Original Spider problems

    Well, I went to the Line 6 home page and clicked support, then the last option on the page that led me to my post was titled "Ask a question" and allowed me to select my amp model. But I *did* fail to read that the question would go to a forum, shame on me. The exact description says "Ask Line 6 support and our Forum Community a question". I thought it meant that I would be sent to the forum after I sent a message to tech support, or something along those lines. At any rate, now I also see how to edit my post, which I didn't see at all before. I'm batting 1000 here. Grr...

     

    As for trying out a Spider IV, no I don't think so. See, I still have this Spider 1 that I don't know what to do with. I mean I could unload it on craigslist to some unsuspecting noob, but do I want to have that on my conscience? Nope. And there's no place for it to go, I live in a very small house. No, all I really want is for Line 6 to say "Yep, those amps did squeal like a mofo, it's not just you."

     

    - baggy

    • jjack972 Just Startin'
      jjack972
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      Jan 29, 2012 11:08 PM (in response to bahgheera)
      Re: Original Spider problems

      I can tell you that the newer models of the amps have built in noise gates. I had a feedback problem with my Spider II 150 combo, but only if I was using my Dean with active EMG's with the volume cranked, or using a guitar with passive pickups while standing in front of the amp again with the volume cranked. Other than that, I had no problems. If you are still having the issue, grab yourself a noise suppressor pedal and you'll be good to go.

    • Line6Hugo Line 6
      Line6Hugo
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      Feb 9, 2012 5:54 PM (in response to bahgheera)
      Re: Original Spider problems

      I have not personally heard that there was anything wrong with the Spider I amps to cause that problem.  There were never any updates to those amps either, as they do not have that capability.  Perhaps there may have been something wrong with that amp when you bought it, but there's no way to tell really unless you want to take it to a serivce center for them to dig around in there.  But as the amp is 10 years old, there really isn't much that can be done for it at this point as parts are limited or unavailable for that series..

       

      Regards,

       

      Line6Hugo

    • Line6david Line 6 Support
      Line6david
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      Feb 14, 2012 4:32 PM (in response to bahgheera)
      Re: Original Spider problems

      Hello. It has been at least 72 hours since we've heard from you. We're going to assume your question has been answered. If it has been answered, please award points to whoever was helpful and/or answered the question.

       

      In the event your issue has not been resolved, I created a support ticket for you so we can continue to communicate. Please respond to the ticket. Thanks!!

       

      Q: What is a support ticket?

      A: A support ticket allows you to directly correspond with a Line 6 Support Representative. An email will be sent to you from Line 6 containing a link to the ticket when a Line 6 Support Representative responds to it. Please follow the link in the email to view your open ticket to work one on one with Line 6 Support. Also, in your account, click My Account, then click Support Tickets to view the support ticket. Here’s a shortcut: http://line6.com/account/tickets/view/.

       

      Please note: Sometimes support tickets will be filtered to spam and junk folders. If you did not receive an email from us indicating that a ticket has been created, please make sure to check those folders in your email host, and also that your email account is receiving messages at all.

  • Line6david Line 6 Support
    Line6david
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    Feb 10, 2012 4:36 PM (in response to bahgheera)
    Re: Original Spider problems

    +1 to Hugo,

     

    Depending on Gain and Volume settings, ANY amp can have feedback problems. Have you tried using a noise gate between the Spider and your guitar? you can pick one up rather inexpensively:

     

    http://www.bananasmusic.com/productlist.asp/categoryID_57/vendorID_1/searchstring_behringer

     

    Thanks,

    David

    Line 6 Customer Support

  • Jimmikatt Just Startin'
    Jimmikatt
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    Feb 11, 2012 9:58 PM (in response to bahgheera)
    Re: Original Spider problems

    Noise gates are your friend, if you play live shows, you will need one close just incase.

    not all clubs, or houses have a clean power supply for playing, floresent lights will kill a great sounding amp with buzz, more so single coil pickups.

    now for feedback, no matter what amp you use or what guitar, your not going to be able to crank it up and stand right in front of it.

     

    PS.. standing too close to a monitor or TV will cause a buzzing in the amp also.

    • jjack972 Just Startin'
      jjack972
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      Feb 12, 2012 12:17 AM (in response to Jimmikatt)
      Re: Original Spider problems

      Aww come on, man! What fun is it if you can't stand right in front of your amp and crank it?!

      • bahgheera Just Startin'
        bahgheera
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        Mar 4, 2012 10:57 PM (in response to jjack972)
        Re: Original Spider problems

        jjack972 - that's what I'm saying! Heh heh. Sorry I haven't responded til now, I've been out of town working.

         

        I think I will try to sell the amp and find one that doesn't have this issue... on a side note, I'm not hating on Line 6 or anything - I have a Toneport UX-1 that works flawlessly, I love it to death. I just had a really bad day when I posted this thread while I was trying to play along with a certain song and the amp just wouldn't stop the squealing no matter where in the room I stood. Thanks for the replies all.

         

        -baggy

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