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aabicudo Just Startin'
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Jan 10, 2012 5:32 AM

POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

Hi, I have a Marshall Valvestate VS100 and recently bought a POD HD500. The thing is that I just can obtain a decent sound when I connect the POD in the front of the amp. I connect the guitar to the POD's Guitar in input, than I connect one of the Unbalanced Outputs of the POD to the amp. When I connect in the back of the amp, in the FX Loop return, the sound is horrible, "closed". In the front I have a better sound, but it´s not the pure POD HD500 sound. Can anyone help me on this issue? THANKS!!

  • gregr Iknowathingortwo
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    Jan 10, 2012 7:24 AM (in response to aabicudo)
    Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

    How do you have the output mode configured in the system setup?

    If running to the front of your amp you should probably use one of the options labeled "front".

    If running inot the amp's effects return then you should probably use one of the options labeled "power amp".

    For each of these there are two choices.  If you're using an open back cabinet then you should probably choose "combo".  If you're using a closed-back cabinet then you should probably choose "stack".

    • aabicudo Just Startin'
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      Jan 10, 2012 10:10 AM (in response to gregr)
      Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

      Thanks gregr!

       

      I'll try your advices later and will let you know if it works good, ok?

       

      Best regards,

       

      Alex

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      Jan 11, 2012 2:18 AM (in response to gregr)
      Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

      gregr,

       

      The only thing that worked for me was to change output to "combo front" and connect the cable in "guitar in" amp input. The way I wanted to run(combo pwr amp and connection to FX Loop return in the back of the amp) is not possible since I just obtain a terrible sound...is there any thing that I still can do?

       

      Thanks,

      • jimsreynolds Power User
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        Jan 11, 2012 2:36 AM (in response to aabicudo)
        Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

        Are you trying to use the POD for amp modelling or effects only?  I will assume amp modelling.

         

        gregr has given you the correct setting if you are to plug into the FX Loop and I agree with him that you should get the best sound like that.  If it still sounding poor then I think you need to start looking at the patches that you are using.

         

        -  When you say 'terrible', what do you mean?  Distorted?  Just sounds wrong?  Can you be more specific

        • aabicudo Just Startin'
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          Jan 11, 2012 9:56 AM (in response to jimsreynolds)
          Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

          Hi jimsreynolds,

           

          Thanks for trying to help me. I will try to explain better what I mean...

           

          I want to use the amp modelling!

           

          I was trying to use the POD connected in the FX Loop return(in the back of my VS100) but I didn't realized that I needed to change the Output setup to Combo pwr amp, since it was set to Studio/direct.The sound was "closed", too high bass, with no clear definition as I could expect when I saw the POD HD500 videos.

           

          Then, with gregr advices I changed the Output to Combo Pwr Amp, but the improvement was minimum. You must know that I connected the cable at one of the Unbalanced Outputs.

           

          I also tried some configuration as described by nick in this discussion(http://line6.com/support/message/217590#217590), but the sound is still poor, for ALL THE PATCHES.

           

          The only good sound I obtained, really close to what I expected, was obtained changing Output to Combo front, and connecting the cable in Guitar in input, in the front of the amp. But I think it's not ideal, because I believe the tone suffers influence of VS100 stack.

           

          Can you help me? Anyone?

           

          Alex

          • gregr Iknowathingortwo
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            Jan 11, 2012 10:35 AM (in response to aabicudo)
            Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

            Try running a preamp-only model (has the word PRE at the end) with No Cab selected for the cabinet model first, then try full amp model (no PRE at the end).  I personally don't like running cabinet models when playing through a real guitar amp, but this is just me.  Do what sounds good to you as there is no "wrong" way.  If this means running into the front of your amp, then so be it.

             

          • jimsreynolds Power User
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            Jan 11, 2012 10:46 AM (in response to aabicudo)
            Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

            Looking at the manual here --> http://www.marshallamps.com/handbooks/pdf/vs100.pdf it looks like the FX loop on your VS100 has some settings that affects how the loop works

             

            1. FX Loop level button.  I think this adjusts between +4dB and -10dB.  Try going initially for the -10dB (quieter) setting and set the 1/4" out switch on the top of the pod to 'Amplifier'  (This is the bottom-most of the three switches beside the expression pedal).  It that doesn's work, try setting to +4dB/'Line' and see how that sounds

            2. FX Mix:   This is a parallel FX Loop.  Make sure you have the mix set to 100% On.

            3. If the signal is too bass-heavy, try 'Stack Power Amp' instead of 'Combo Power Amp'.

            4. If the patch you are using has a Speaker configured, try turning it off. 
            5. If you are using a 'Full' amp model try using the 'Pre' amp model instead.  These are found at the end of the list and are designed for use with Power amps (particularly the DT50/25 but others too).

             

            Try the first three above first before 4 and 5.

             

            HTH

             

            JIM

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    Jan 10, 2012 9:44 AM (in response to aabicudo)
    Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

    Hello Aabicudo,

     

    I have the same problem. When I connect the POD in my AMP the real sound of my Amp changes. I tried a lot but could not find the right configuration. Do you have the solution yet?

     

    Best regards, Willy from Holland

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    Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM (in response to aabicudo)
    Re: POD HD500 connection to Marshall VS100

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