Feb 21, 2012 1:57 PM
JTV59 intonation problems
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I bought a JTV 59 TB and eventually got it last June after a lengthy wait. I played it for a few days and then put it back in the gigbag for a few weeks. On getting it out and trying to use a REAL capo (hadn't worked out workbench yet) I noticed the intonation was all over the place requiring me to re-tune it all when ever I applied a capo. Over the months it has got progressively worse. I'm used to comparing between the open string and the 12th fret to see if it is sharp or flat but I can play an Em which will sound in tune and then a Gmaj and it'll be sharp or flat. My problem is compounded by the fact it's a set neck and my usual guitar guy doesn't want to touch it.
Has anybody else had this problem with the 59 and is it easy to rectify (truss rod adjustment??)
Regards.
For best results the intonation is generally done in conjunction with a full setup, including truss rod and action adjustment if necessary. Intonation comes last, after these two are properly set.
If you're not familiar with doing your own setup I would find a 'guitar guy' who isn't afraid of a set neck.
+1 to Silverhead.
There is plenty of info on the Internet to instruct you how to do a full set up including truss rod adjustment, but if you would rather not do it yourself, then I also recommend you find a professional luthier to do a complete set up for you. It's not that expensive - my local luthier charges about £20-£30.
Furthermore, if there is actually a construction problem with the neck or the frets then the luthier will be able to spot that and either rectify or tell you the guitar is bad - in which case you need to contact Line6 and send it back and have it replaced if it cannot be repaired.
Good luck! Hope you can get it sorted - I have a JTV59 TSB and its a fantastic guitar - fortunately I did not have any intonation problems - the guitar only needed a little bit of tweaking to get the intonation set perfectly which I did myself.
Best Regards
Eddie
A couple of quick ideas for "tuning" a guitar neck: I bought a piece of Lexan at a local home store, then, using an old-fashioned wooden yardstick, placed it on the neck of my guitar, and marked the postion of the frets on the yardstick. I then lined up the yardstick on a line I'd drawn about 3 inches in from the edge of the sheet of lexan, and marked the position of the frets on the lexan. Checked the marks on the lexan against the guitar neck - easy to do since the lexan is clear - and satisfied, I drilled 3/8 inch or so holes at each fret mark on the lexan where it crossed the line I'd previously drawn on the lexan. Then, used a band saw to cut the lexan down the middle of the line and holes I'd drilled, using a guide to keep it running nice and straight. You should be able to lay the lexan down on either side on the cut-off piece of lexan you now have no use for (or maybe it's a second tool for a friend), and both sides should be perfectly flat or nearly so. Now I have a handy little tool that on one side of the lexan has a "factory-straight" edge on it, and on the other, it is very, very straight with notches for each fret. With me so far?
Now, the factory edge on the lexan when placed on the frets pretty quickly tells you when one or a bunch are higher or lower than the others, AND, the side with the notches tells me whether or not the actual neck of the guitar is straight; they are not always in sync, but it's a good place to start. If the neck is "factory right" and it is bowed, both sides of the lexan will indicate this. If you're comfortable tweaking the neck adjustment, you'll find it usually takes very little to bring the neck back in line. You can adjust to the fretboard (use the side of the lexan with the notches for the frets) and that should bring your neck into perfect alignment. Next, check the frets after the fretboard is straight (or flat, or however you express it) and you should find that the frets are fine. Pretty easy, actually. Of course, after I "invented" this little gizmo I found that stewmac sells a metal thing virtually identical for about $80. Such is life I suppose...
What i liike about my Lexan model is that when placed on the neck I can wiggle it a bit side to side while I hold it in the middle, and if the neck is off a bit, either the center of the lexan strip will wiggle easily while sitting above the frets, or it wil want to cling in the middle while the ends want to wobble. If it wobbles in the middle, the neck is bowed (sort of 'C' shaped a tiny bit), whereas if it sticks in the middle, the adjusting nut on the neck has been bound down a bit too much and needs to be loosened. NOW, if the lexan is perfectly flat on both sides - the factory edge and the edge you cut with the bandsaw - and your neck is flat while checking the fretboard, but off when you use the straight edge on the frets, you'll know you need some fret dressing to fix the problem. At least you'll know where the problem lies. Hint: make sure whoever is going to do the work on your guitar neck has a tool like this or it's possible to get flat frets with a curved fretboard; many "luthiers" (and I use the term loosely) only use a straightedge on the frets and never bother to check fretboard.
Hope this helps you and others.
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