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alleswiedergut Just Startin' 1 posts since
Mar 27, 2012
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Mar 31, 2012 1:02 AM

Speaker for hd500

hi, i'm new in this community and also a new user of an hd500,

does someone has a good idea for a not expensive speaker for the pod?

 

 

thanx, greg

  • MarkCline Just Startin' 36 posts since
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    Apr 1, 2012 4:00 PM (in response to alleswiedergut)
    Re: Speaker for hd500

    I bought 2 of the Altec Lansing Stage Gig Monitors. They're out of production, but lots of places still have them.  They're not loud enough to use as a stand alone amp at a gig, but they're plenty lound for building patches at home, or for stage monitors if your band isn't too loud. They are 40 watts each, and are very accurate for guitar sounds.

     

    Every patch that I've built at home has translated well to the stage, where I run a Behringer 120W full range keyboard amp kicked back at me for my monitor, with everything else going FOH and then through the mains and other monitors.

     

    The best part of the Altec speakers is that they are only about $50 each. I got 2 for $109 with shipping. Altec marketed them as an accessory for Rock Band or Guitar Hero video games, so the packaging looks cheesy, but don't let that disuade you. I was leery for that reason, but have been pleasantly surprised.

     

    I go for more classic sounds, so if you're looking for death metal super high gain happiness, these probably won't suffice. If you're looking for more power on the cheap, I'd look to Behringer keyboard amps. You can score one of those for around $300.  You gotta be careful though. If you get a good one they rock, but though I've had good luck with the 2 I have, I've seen where others haven't been so lucky.  It might be worth it to pay the local sales tax, and buy one locally that you can test drive, instead of crossing your fingers and ordering one from MF or off Ebay. Most will let you return one if you get a dog, but you'll be out the return shipping, and the louder ones are heavy and expensive to ship.

     

    Hope that helps.

     

    Happy Hunting!

    • anglepod Just Startin' 172 posts since
      Mar 24, 2012
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      Apr 23, 2012 6:18 PM (in response to MarkCline)
      Re: Speaker for hd500

      One assumes you know the POD cannot drive a speaker or cab on its own, it is just a preamp at best.

      Any number of "powered" monitors would work short of buying a rather inexpensive power amp to run a cab.

       

      I use an ART SLA-1 power amp, 2channel L/R 100 watts 8 ohms into a 4x12 split cab. Just kills.but maybe too much bang and buck for some.

      Power amps are so inexpensive at a workable wattage level these days. In fact it is a little hard to find one about a 100 watts to be usefull as a std guitar type rig.

      My ART was super low priced and great quality, has its own quiet cooling fan.

      • Akeron Just Startin' 224 posts since
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        Apr 24, 2012 6:29 AM (in response to anglepod)
        Re: Speaker for hd500

        Have you ever tried the Rocktron Velocity 300 and compared that to the Sla?

        • anglepod Just Startin' 172 posts since
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          Apr 24, 2012 5:43 PM (in response to Akeron)
          Re: Speaker for hd500

          Nope, I had looked at the Rocktron through Musician's Friend but it was easier for me to get the ART through my vender (zZounds.com) that offers 4 payments, no finance charge, or credit check-qual.

           

          The ART SLA-1 just burns, total punch, total quiet, bandwidth, hard to imagine anything would be better. Using a power amp on the POD with the stereo/direct out into a 4x12 cab just kills. I have been using some of Bobbo's preset creations adapting a few changes for my rig and my God what a tone.

           

          I was so pleased w my tones today it was a blast to play.

  • revans Just Startin' 22 posts since
    Jun 26, 2010
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    May 1, 2012 10:40 AM (in response to alleswiedergut)
    Re: Speaker for hd500

    Many people like the Mackie Thump TH-12A for $300 or less. Good sound, light weight, good price.

     

    To get better you'd have to go to QSC K10 for $770 or K12 for $870. If you want two of them the price gets very high very quickly.

     

    For best results, set the speaker's power amp to maximum and use the POD HD MASTER volume to set your sound level, and put the speaker up on a stand.

     

    I posted more details here:

    http://line6.com/support/message/373106#373106

     

    Enjoy!

    • anglepod Just Startin' 172 posts since
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      May 3, 2012 4:20 AM (in response to revans)
      Re: Speaker for hd500

      I tend to keep my POD about 3:00 on the master or a littlle less. The Power amp has plenty of power just set at half level as the POD main outs have a huge preamp drive level. I find the other output modes on the POD to be much thinner than the fullrange direct stereo main outs. I have not attempted to mess with the modes that have EQ params as it just adds more variables to my tones in which I am using 1-3 EQs in my presets it just screws with my final tone more than I need. Besides the full main outs are just great. I do wish Line 6 would add a no mic option just to be able to turn off that coloring aspect of the preset as the wrong mic can just ruin the tone. It would be nice to be able to just run out of the preset without having to go through a mic model.

       

      The POD just kills on my 4x12 split cab. The ART SLA-1 was really low priced and is a studio quality power amp. Really nice unit, I was rather amazed at the quaility, power cabability, and build for such a low price. It also has its own quiet cooling fan.

       

      Turning the power amp up all the way is too much to handle in the same room at a full 100 watts per channel.

      My standard tube head is 100 watts and the power amp rig can easily be too loud just like the std 100 watt head system was.

      Wattage is a big deal for me not for loudness but regarding headroom, bandwidth and fidelity. I was never a fan of the little watt easy clip amps.

      The beauty of the POD rig is being able to dial in a great sounding Dr Z or one of the other smaller amps and unlike the real amp not running out of wattage headroom causing the amp to just distort out, that is all fine and good if that is all you are after, but it is rather cool to get a nice cleaner full tone out of those little amps without being forced into clipping too early. The amplified clean tone on some of the amps is really a nice tone very warm tube feel. The Fenders are just amazing and the uber gain models sound better than most amps I have messed with.

       

      The sound using a guitar cab is better to me than trying to use a 2way, or 3way speaker as the crossover network splits and divides the sound. Most would not attempt to use a guitar head on a 2way,.3way speaker crossover system. Yet no one blinks on just plugging into a PA system. Due to the physics of the system your signal is being split between 2 or 3 speakers depending on the PA speaker config crossover circuit.  I am not saying it cannot work but it does split your signal and your EQ will be much different to get it to sound right. I think many have experienced setting up presets on headphones and when piping into a PA the sounds are much different. To me the creation of the primary tone is much different than listening to something on playback monitors.

       

      If you want the truest most realistic amp tone, I have found it. The depth, power and punch of using a power amp into a guitar cab is comparable to the real deal. The ability to actually render a dual stacked amp model actually makes for a richer and fuller sound than you are going to get out of a guitar amp.  After taking a couple of months to really learn the POD system I am really impressed by the quality of the amp model tones. My wife was also taken back at how dynamic some of the tones are out of the non tube rig yet it sounds like I am using not just my 100 watt guitar amp but 2 of them in stereo.

      Those trashing these new models are probably not really hearing them at their full potential.

  • alfmetal70 Just Startin' 104 posts since
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    May 29, 2012 3:21 PM (in response to alleswiedergut)
    Re: Speaker for hd500

    hi, my experience:

     

    In the beggining I used the Eminence GB128, just good, but the problem was with the high freqs, I felt a little dark the result. Then I used the Eminence 1258, very good, natural, maybe a little harsh, but more natural than the GB128.

     

    Now I am using both in a 2x12, and the result, just amazing, much body and clarity, I love my tone maybe in the same way like so much year ago with a JCM800 moded that I had, now I am happy with my tone.

     

    Just that, are very cheap (wierd for the tone quality) and I like more the result than with other speaker that I had before (in other stacks) in this last years (V30, GT75, etc...)

     

    Greetings

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