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mnimon Just Startin' 19 posts since
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Jul 12, 2012 5:52 AM

POD HD300/400 Users: 14 weeks and counting...

By my count, it has been 14 weeks (more than 1/4 of a year) since V2.0 was released and still we (HD300/400 users) wait for our update.  Coming soon my arse!

 

Any of the Line6 guys around to provide an official update as to when or if an update is actually coming?  If it is, will it contain the same feature set as the 500/pro release?

 

If its going to be a while or be a reduced feature set release you might as well let us know now. 

  • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User 11,829 posts since
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    Jun 15, 2012 4:17 AM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

    the hardware is different... so perhaps not all the features will come over... but i'm sure that if they are taking their time... they're going to make it worth the wait.

  • HTSMetal Just Startin' 28 posts since
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    Jun 15, 2012 7:08 AM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

    Let us remember that it's been nearly 6 months total since the initial announcement of POD HD v2.0. At this point, "coming soon" for HD300 & 400 users is a definitive false-advertisement. Doesn't matter what the platform or hardware may be, six months is an absurdly long time to wait for an announced software update.

     

    I take it the developers hadn't even begun working on the HD300 & 400 v2.0 prior to releasing it for the 500, PRO and desktop?

  • lforward00 Just Startin' 34 posts since
    Jun 18, 2007
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    Jun 15, 2012 8:24 AM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

    It won't have all the features since many of them are not applicable to the 300. However, the cab DEPs could be especially useful since the equalizing options on the 300 are so limited. Also, the new plexi models seem to be really popular.

  • spikey Just Startin' 378 posts since
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    Jun 15, 2012 2:47 PM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

    Not that it would do any good, but I would be PO'ed too if I owned the 3/400...

    I feel for you 300/400 users on having to wait this long AFTER the 500 softwares release.

    Like Zap said,  (and i Hope) its worth your waiting frustration levels...

     

    hang in there and just be glad its not a Vetta... ; )

     

     

     

    i can only imagine the cab DEP's are using more DSP than able to keep the 300/400 realtime so they have to optimize anything they can to get it back in spec, OR they basically shelved it and have the team working on other things.

     

     

    If so- Most good engineers would have added in "extra" amounts of Ram into the design, just for these later updated adds and patches. At least the ones without a budget axed pocketbook from the beginning would... It seem they did do this for the Spider Amps.... ; ) I mean, Just think what an extra 512 meg of ram would have allowed the 500 to do, in creating our patches... No more DSP limits im thinking. And what is a 512 meg stick these days, 5 bucks if that much??? I'll give them the a small excused benefit by saying hindsite is 20/20... That is, if so and YMMV as always....

  • voodoohill Just Startin' 11 posts since
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    Jun 16, 2012 10:05 AM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

    I feel that very soon we will have the update, I'm quite confident before the end of this yeat or 1st quarter of the next, but maybe I'm too optimistic.....

  • voodoohill Just Startin' 11 posts since
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    Jun 25, 2012 7:43 AM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...


    mnimon ha scritto:

     

    By my count, it has been 10 weeks since V2.0 was released and still we (HD300/400 users) wait for our update.  Coming soon my arse!

     

    Any of the Line6 guys around to provide an official update as to when or if an update is actually coming?  If it is, will it contain the same feature set as the 500/pro release?

     

    If its going to be a while or be a reduced feature set release you might as well let us know now. 

    11..............

  • b78deluxe Just Startin' 29 posts since
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    Jun 29, 2012 6:49 AM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

    Line6 - us consumers of your products were told there would be a 2.0 update by the end of the 1st quarter of 2012.  The 2nd quarter is basically over and we STILL do not have an update.

     

    I think it is reasnable for us to expect some update from your PR dept regarding the status at this point.  HD500/PRO users have had this update for MONTHS...where is ours?

    • bclarke675 Just Startin' 153 posts since
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      Jun 29, 2012 6:53 AM (in response to b78deluxe)
      Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

      +1

      • spikey Just Startin' 378 posts since
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        Jul 6, 2012 8:51 AM (in response to mnimon)
        Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

        Sadly, you are not going to make them (Line 6) do anything they are not ready to do. 1st off,  they already have our money, and the past has proved to them (and the rest of equipment makers) that anything thats new and thats sparkles...,  we will buy of in bulk and then whine later that it does not do what it was supposed to or needs added features. They know this, because we have done it time and time again. Very few makers of our toys make something that is near perfect, out of the box. Why? because we GOTTA HAVE IT NOW! And so there is lots of money to be made and bills to get paid from our impatience... They are doing exactly what we wanted... RELEASE THE DAMN THING. So can Line 6 think of everything before release? In fairness no, but the point is that we have created a situation in the buyers market where they dont have to. And Blowing snot bubbles after they have your money mean little to anyone these days, because they "all" know that our memories are very short and washed away by the next "big" thing released. Meaning that we do not hold them to the standards we demand before the sale, only after...  We "allow" this to happen and are our own worst enemies. That said- Line 6 with all its faults makes a pretty good line of products (yes that need tweaking and updates done to them), in which I am sure they will get to, In their "own" sweet time. And that is only when they decide, not us... And do not forget, only for a finite amount of time. Until the next big thing, at which time our now coveted HD's will be tossed in to the pile with our Vetta's...... I mean after all, they have to eat too ya know...  sigh... Again, i think we are to blame for the "buy before its done" mindset these days, not them...

        • b78deluxe Just Startin' 29 posts since
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          Jul 6, 2012 11:40 AM (in response to spikey)
          Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 10 weeks and counting...

          I disagree. 

           

          They made a promise of the update and we expect it in a timely fashion.  1/2 a year+  is not a timely software release. 

           

          Yes, they have our money already.  However, many of us will have this situation in the back of our minds when it comes time to buy a new piece of gear. 

           

          I know quite a few people that returned a PODHD becuase of lack of control over the low end (that the DEP editing should help with).  So not all consumers fit into your catergory of buy before it is done.  And with a piece of gear like the HD, it can take beyond the average 30 day return policy to understand what the limitations of the piece of gear are.  You could easliy spend 30 days trying to tweak the thing to get a few really good tones. 

           

          I for one do not have short term memory loss, you can be sure 5 years from now, I'll remember this "delay" for the update. 

           

          (never a Vetta owner myself.....the HD is the only amp modeling they have released that was "good enough" for me to use, personally)

  • JDerkT Just Startin' 11 posts since
    Mar 20, 2007
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    Jul 6, 2012 2:43 PM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 13 weeks and counting...

    Personally, I'm looking forward to the Plexi model and the DEP editing.

     

    It does seem to be taking them a while.  I own the smallest Fender Mustang, too, and while I much prefer the Line 6 HD models to those, I will say that in the 1 1/2 years I've owned that amp, they've had several software upgrades, including adding a few features that we requested in the forums!  With the exception of the Fender models, the HD is my clear preference, but Fender seems pretty responsive to customer desires, as long as they are within reason...well, there is one issue folks don't seem to be getting satisfaction on, but apart from that...

  • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User 11,829 posts since
    Dec 22, 2006
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    Jul 17, 2012 11:12 AM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 14 weeks and counting...

    Surprised noone has said anything.....

    now that its RELEASED!

     

    POD HD300/400 Flash Memory v2.01 is a FREE firmware update that is highly recommended for all POD HD400 users.

     

    ----------------------------------------------------------

     

      What’s New? POD HD400 2.01 includes seven new HD guitar amp models, one HD bass amp model (with matching cab + eight mic model choices) and two new FX models; an advanced noise gate and vintage-voiced mic preamp model.

    • “Solo 100 Clean”, “Solo 100 Crunch”, and “Solo 100 Overdrive” HD Guitar Amp Models
      Three new HD guitar amp models based on* the Clean/Crunch and Overdrive channels of the classic, hand-built Soldano® SLO100 Super Lead Overdrive 100-watt head.

    • “Line 6 Doom” and “Line 6 Epic” HD Guitar Amp Models
      Two new, Line 6 original HD guitar amp models with lots of gain on tap. Line 6 Doom delivers maximum sludge by combining a Marshall® JCM800 preamp and Hiwatt® Custom 100 power amp with some additional tweaks. Line 6 Epic provides sustain for days at virtually any playing dynamic, giving up gobs of distortion with ease.  Play with the Master Volume parameter to experience the true versatility of these amps.

    • “Plexi Lead NRM” and “Plexi Lead BRT” HD Guitar Amp Models
      Stunning new HD guitar amp models based on* the Normal and Bright inputs of the legendary Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead 100-watt head.

    • “Flip Top” HD Bass Amp Model
      Based on* the Ampeg® B-15NF Portaflex®, one of the most popular studio bass amps of all time.

    • Eight New Mic Choices for the “Flip Top” Cab Model
      Get your ideal bass tone from the new “Flip Top” HD bass model with eight mic choices based on*:
      • Shure® SM57
      • Sennheiser® 421
      • AKG® D12
      • AKG® D112
      • EV® RE20
      • Shure® SM7B
      • Heil Sound® PR40
      • Neumann® U47
    • “Vintage” HD Mic Preamp Model
      A vintage-voiced tube mic preamp based on* the Requisite Y7. Place this model at any point in the signal chain to give incredible warmth to vocal sounds and guitar and bass tones. This model lives in the FX1 slot. Its controls include:
      • Gain: Input Gain
      • HPF: Provides a High-Pass Filter with a range of 20Hz-500Hz
      • LPF: Provides a Low-Pass Filter with a range of 5kHz-20kHz
      • Phase: 0 or 180 degree out of phase (useful when used within parallel signal paths)
      • Output: Output Level
    • “Hard Gate” Model
      An advanced gate capable of extremely quick response. With controls for hold time, decay rate, and separate open/close thresholds, Hard Gate is ideal for any genre including Metal. It can even be abused to create erratic “sputter” and “splat” effects.  This model lives in the FX1 slot.

    • Cabinet Bypass
      Choose the “none” option in the cabinet selection menu to bypass cabinet/mic modeling.

     

    How do I download it?

    Connect your POD HD to your computer, run Line 6 Monkey and follow the directions.

     

     

    *All product names used in this webpage are trademarks of their respective owners, which are in no way associated or affiliated with Line 6. These trademarks of other manufacturers are used solely to identify the products of those manufacturers whose tones and sounds were studied during Line 6’s sound model development.

  • thewhites Just Startin' 34 posts since
    May 25, 2007
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    Jul 17, 2012 2:24 PM (in response to mnimon)
    Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 14 weeks and counting...

    Those who have patience get great things!!!!

    • JTSC777 Just Startin' 63 posts since
      Jun 22, 2012
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      Oct 31, 2012 9:00 AM (in response to thewhites)
      Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 14 weeks and counting...

      Agreed. Updated mine yesterday while I gave lessons. Easy and I am not a computer guy by any means. I can however follow directions. I loved my HD300 already and am looking forward to incorporating some of the new feature set into my kit bag. Zoom-Digitech-Boss etc...I have owned and gigged them all at Churches-concert stages-clubs etc...and these HD units kill them.I have owned and played tube amps and pedals since I was 12 years old so I know what a Hiwatt-Marshall-Fender -Vox should sound like.If you have never owned or used the real thing I suggest listening to some old recordings of these amps to help you get a realistic tone out of your HD. Have Fun!

      • spikey Just Startin' 378 posts since
        Feb 1, 2007
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        Nov 4, 2012 8:55 AM (in response to JTSC777)
        Re: POD HD300/400 Users: 14 weeks and counting...

        JTSC777 wrote:

        I have owned and played tube amps and pedals since I was 12 years old so I know what a Hiwatt-Marshall-Fender -Vox should sound like.If you have never owned or used the real thing I suggest listening to some old recordings of these amps to help you get a realistic tone out of your HD. Have Fun!

        +1 good idea .... Always helps to have a reference...

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