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xCaptainx Just Startin' 63 posts since
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Jul 11, 2012 1:19 PM

had a full evening with the L3T powered monitor + HD500 (gig volume review)

Righto so I was lucky enough to be able to try out the brand spanking new Line 6 L3T powered monitor tonight at band practise. They just arrived in the country late last week.

 

 

Now to give you a bit of background on my thoughts/initial impressions..

 

 

- I've been using my HD500 D.I at shows lately, and using whatever foldback is at the venue

- I havent tried any other popular powered monitors associated with digital rigs yet i.e. Mackie, QSC K series, Alto etc.

- I've been using the HD500 + poweramp for quite a while now.

- I'm simply after a loud FRFR solution, I didn't touch any of the additional controls on the 2nd side panel.

 

 

I'm fairly confident with the ins and outs of the HD500, so I was extremely interested in comparing this to a standard poweramp/cab setup, and the quality of the sound I've been hearing from general foldback.

 

 

Size wise, it's really good. It's in the same price range as the Mackie HD1221 in NZ, I havent seen the 1221 in person but most of the videos show it to be like a standard Wedge size. This seems a bit concerning for me as I still want to have a 'backline' pushing air behind me, as well as using the in house foldback up front (and just in case a p.a isnt grunty enough and I need to have some on stage sound cranking as well.

 

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/x_captain_x/IMG_20120711_193817-1.jpg

 

 

The size of this unit is great. We put it next to an oversized mesa cab with castor wheels and they are pretty much exactly the same. Obviously the L3T isnt half the width!

 

 

I kept it in P.A/reference/FRFR mode tonight as it was only the HD500 going through, with full emulation/rig happening from the HD500.

 

 

It was loud. VERY loud. I have my HD500 master volume at 50% as I have an additional output going to our drummer, for his in ear system. That gives him the level he needs for his sample pad/metronome/in ear system. I had the L3T volume at half way and it was incredibly loud, it sat in the mix perfectly and wasnt clipping at all.

 

 

EVERYTHING sounds better louder, that's a fact. I REALLY got to appreciate my patches and tweak them a bit more tonight due to having it blasting in my face at a 'gig' volume, it was muh better than tweaking on my studio monitors at home. I'm extremely confident at being able to have this replace a 4x12 behind me on stage and filling out my stage sound, no problem at all. I'd then have an XLR running out from the HD500 to the soundguy for his 'mic'

 

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/x_captain_x/IMG_20120711_205957-1.jpg

 

 

 

 

Now there are two kickstand options. The handle acts as a 30 degree kickstand, this is what this picture is. Thereis also additional foot kicks you can snap out and have it at 60 degrees. Unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of that setup but I have to be honest, the 60 degree version was my favourite. The 'virtual tilt back' feature was extremely interesting. It aims the sound to 'head height'.

 

 

One thing that I really liked was that it sounded great all over the practise room. It wasnt directional, it seemed to fill out the room really, really well. Even when on its side and acting like a wedge. The 60 degree tilt back was great. When I do parachute next year I'll probably opt for this approach and have the L3T to the side of me, or on front of the stage (you can probably tell I'm already sold on this haha)

 

 

Bit late and rambling a tad, but yeah this was great. If you know how to tweak the HD500 and get the most of it, you'll have a great experience with the L3T. I'd highly recommend this over a 4x12, or 2x12 and poweramp setup, especially if you are comfortable and confident enough with the HD500 doing everything for you. 1300w gives you plenty of headroom. I was able to hear a lot more with my bigger chords and progressions during certain bits.

 

 

btw we had an axe fx ultra + poweramp and mesa cab in the room, running a SLO patch with a gibson SG, with my L3T/HD500 setup, with the gunslinger retro  running the Engl patch, gain on about 10%, with a tube screamer out front and about 80% on both deep cab editing options (I forget the name of them) With the master volume on the amp at about 85%, and the sag at 10%, you get a really crisp, dry, tight metal tone. I'm not a fan of engls in real life but I really, really liked this tone. It's not as 'loud' as the mesa amp option on the HD500 but I think it sings out way better.

 

 

Sorry I'm not much of a tech nerd with sound systems, but, this sounds mean, loud and awesome. I'm getting one.

 

btw please check my band out! I've been using Line 6 products in one way, shape or form for the last decade (pod, pod xt, HD147, Vetta and now HD500)

 

www.facebook.com/indreadresponse

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atrOlc0fJvA (full album with HD500 and Axe FX)

 

http://soundcloud.com/xcaptainx all recordings with HD500

 

HD500 D.I tone (full band) audio direct from soundboard

 

 

http://soundcloud.com/xcaptainx/in-dread-response-through-1

 

http://soundcloud.com/xcaptainx/in-dread-response-apophis-live

 

http://soundcloud.com/xcaptainx/in-dread-response-cannons-at

 

I'm a B.C Rich endorsee so all clips have been recorded with either a B.C Rich Warlock NJ Deluxe with emg 81, or Gunslinger Retro with EMG 81x.

 

Really looking forward to using this L3T and HD500 live from now on!

  • thewhites Just Startin' 34 posts since
    May 25, 2007

    Amen!! I am glad to see someone else praises this setup like I do. My tone is incredible using the L3t and the HD500 along with the JTV89 variax. I loaned my L3t (I was there of course) to my buddies band a couple of nights ago and used it on the right side for the mains of the PA and ran it against his mackie thumps on the left side. I have always told him that the mains are is makes your band sound either good or bad. If you buy cheap you get cheap. If you spend the money the band will sound 10 times as good. I called him out front during the sound check in front of the Mackies and said listen. Then I pulled him over to the L3t and looked at him and smiled. He walked away haha. The clarity and punch is so much better.  .

  • sozeg Just Startin' 16 posts since
    Dec 23, 2011

    That set up sounds great. I've only recently got an hd500 and I'm looking at ways to replace carrying around a big amp. Do you mind if I ask you afew questions on this?

     

    Would it work just the same with a small amp like the dt25 behind you rather than the lt3?

    What's it like having the lt3 acting like a monitor in front of you rather than behind you?

    Would you use the lt3 at a big gig in front of you or just use the house monitors, or, could you use the lt3 in front of you just for your own sound and still have the house monitors to give you the rest of the band?

    Can you explain further what output you use to send to your drummer and what he is hearing through this?

     

     

    Sorry to bombard you, just really interested in this set up. Thanks for the photos as well.

     

    Cheers.

      • Astaroth_CY Just Startin' 112 posts since
        Aug 18, 2007

        Just to be clear, could you still run a stereo output if you wanted to, provided you had two L3M/L3Ts? I.e. you would run left line out to one L3T, right line out to the other L3T, then two XLR outs to the P.A? (Forgetting about the drummer monitoring thing)

         

        Also would there be a way to sneak in a mono signal from another guitar on one of the two L3Ts? My band sometimes has two guitars and sometimes has one guitar, but I want to consistently have the same volume on a stereo basis, so my "one guitar" HD500 patches are either dual cab or just stereo, with the goal of making it sound like there are still two guitars even if there is still only one (i.e. the two channels are panned hard left and hard right, completely separated). Right now this works just fine going straight into the PA because I'm going through a mixing board that easily takes care of this... I guess my question is, can I have two simultaneous guitar inputs in the L3T effectively treated as equals? Kind of like a basic onboard mixer?

      • sozeg Just Startin' 16 posts since
        Dec 23, 2011

        That's great. Thanks very much for the detailed response. I would love try out the lt3 instead of an amp. I'm quite liking the idea of no amp as well and just using the monitors from the main pa. Its placing a lot of trust in the sound guy though! Sometimes we don't get time for a sound check so if I had no amp and couldn't hear the monitors I'd be screwed! That's a worst case scenario though. I think I'll mess around in the rehearsal studio and try d.i to the pa and see what's it like with just the monitors. I guess that's the ultimate, being able to turn up for a gig with just  a guitar and the hd500! A lot easier than humpfing a Marshall half stack up three flights of stairs.

         

        Thanks again.

      • sozeg Just Startin' 16 posts since
        Dec 23, 2011

        By the way, I checked out the links to your band. Whilst its not totally my kind of music the playing is immense and a really pro video. Hats off to your drummer though, has he got robot legs to do double kicks that fast!

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