Currently Being ModeratedAug 23, 2012 2:30 PM (in response to vortex2011)Re: How to hook up HD500 to Mesa Amp/Cabinet and not use modular amp dist.
Dont panic! You have the right pedal. However, you need to make some choices on how you want to connect it up.
Front of Amp
Guitar ==> HD Input
HD 1/4" Output ==> Amp Input
This is the simplest way and works well for many people. It works well if you are mainly using the clean channel on your amp or you are only using effects that normally sit in front of the amp(e.g. compression, wah, distortions, some modulations). It is also OK for amp modelling if setup correctly. Not always so great for reverbs and delays etc, particularly where higher gain tones are used.
In the Loop
Guitar ==> Amp Input
Amp FX Loop Send ==> HD Input
HD 1/4" Output Left ==> Amp FX Return Left
HD 1/4" Output Right ==> Amp FX Return Right
This way works very well for effects like echoes and delays, reverbs and some modulations. Not so well for distortions and wah. Amp Modelling will almost certainly sound weird.
Four Cable Method (well actually more cause of the stereo)
Deep breath ...
Guitar ==> HD Input
HD FX Send ==> Amp Input
Amp FX Send ==> HD FX Return Left
HD 1/4" Output Left ==> Amp FX Return
This is the all singing, all dancing method for hookup. It allows you to put all effects where you want them, to use your pre-amp channels correctly and allows for amp modelling too. It is a pain to intially get your head around and setup but the results can be excellent. For more details on 4CM and what it does check the link here. http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2523
People on the forum have in the past managed to get this working with a Dual Rec so you should be OK.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 23, 2012 2:35 PM (in response to jimsreynolds)Re: How to hook up HD500 to Mesa Amp/Cabinet and not use modular amp dist.
I just printed the 4CM method and I will give it a shot!!! Thanks for your help!!! hopefully i can get this working cuz i love this pedal!
Currently Being ModeratedAug 24, 2012 3:58 AM (in response to jimsreynolds)Re: How to hook up HD500 to Mesa Amp/Cabinet and not use modular amp dist.
Just wondering if this 4CM method also does work well for my POD HD400 and my beloved VOX AC30C2 Tube amp?
Because now i have my POD HD400 connected in front of the amp (Guitar --> HD input, HD 1/4" Output --> Amp Input. Unbalanced output swith=AMP and Output mode=LIVE) but if i select a clean patch with all effects turned off and amp modeling off i get a completly different tone out of my VOX Tube amp and it does not sound like how the VOX tube amp should sound. I am missing the nice and warm clean sound of my VOX.
Some patches with more grid/distorsion sound a bit better and some more high gain distorsion sound pretty good but i can not get the nice warm sounds from the VOX amp when i have the POD HD400 connected. If i connect my guitar(s) (Fender Strat American standard 3CS and my Gibson LP Standard) directly to my VOX they sound amazing and with that beautiful warm tube sound (with little bit of grunch when turning up the volume on the Topboost channel a bit).
Anyone have any experience with the POD HD400 and VOC AC30C2 Tube amp with 4CM?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2012 9:47 PM (in response to hendrixx_nl)Re: How to hook up HD500 to Mesa Amp/Cabinet and not use modular amp dist.
Just a query further Hendrixx's post... Firstly does the AC30 have an FX send/return?
I've been using a POD 500 on and off for a few months so I'm no expert... is this issue simply due to their being no Amp FX send/return option on the amp itself and if so... is there any way around it? I run my POD 500 in front of an Orange AD30 for some gigs where I use certain pre sets. I haven't figured a way to bypass the POD to use the dirty channel direct while still having the POD hooked up purely for access to the FX. Sounds like what Hendrixx is talking about right?
Funilly enough I've dialled in the AC30 amp model and with a little tweaking have quite a decent tone on the clean with a half decent dirty tone (through to a thick crunch) however nothing like going straight into the amp for something thicker.
Does anyone out there have an angle for us guys without FX sends on the amps (if my assumption is correct) or are we doomed until we change our amp set ups?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2012 9:19 AM (in response to Vintage79)Re: How to hook up HD500 to Mesa Amp/Cabinet and not use modular amp dist.
The VOX AC30C2 does have a FX send/return, unfortunatly i haven't had the time yet to try things with the 4CM methode. Hope to find some time soon to experiment with the 4CM, but I am still interested to know if anyone has any experience with a setup like mine (or almost similar).
Currently Being ModeratedOct 23, 2012 6:03 AM (in response to hendrixx_nl)Re: How to hook up HD500 to Mesa Amp/Cabinet and not use modular amp dist.
Hendrix You can apparently use the HD400 for 4CM - it has all the required features - but I don't have an HD400 so cannot give you specifics. Search this site ... a couple of people were using 4CM with an HD400.
With the tone suckage. Make sure your output switching is in 'Live' mode. Also, if you use the 'Combo Frt' or 'StackFrt' modes then you may be adding an EQ to the signal. Try 'ComboPwr' and see if that makes a difference when you turn off all your effects.
If you do go with 4CM then you should be using ComboPwr or StackPwr as the output modes anyway so you may find that your real amp tone clears up a bit. I cannot say for sure though.