Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 11:41 AM (in response to jmpollard3)Re: JTV with POD X3 Live - trouble getting "started"
The last firmware update that I see for the X3 was in 2010. I would think that new firmware would have to be released to allow control of the JTV guitars. On my HD500, I have to set the patch settings to JTV or 300/500/700 series for it to control the Variax, so it looks at the two types differently. What that means to me is that if I plug in my 700 and the patch is set to control the JTV model, it doesn't change the guitar setting.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 1:26 PM (in response to jmpollard3)Re: JTV with POD X3 Live - trouble getting "started"
I have the JTV59 and X3L and I can confirm that they do work together and that the X3L happily controls the patches on the JTV. I also have the HD500 and DT25 combo.
My X3L is at the latest firmware level available via Monkey which provides the JTV support which includes ability to have both mags and model on different channels at the same time so you can have a blend of sounds like acoustic model and on board mags.
Connect your JTV to the x3l with the VDI cable. Have your X3L input set to Variax ch1 for models. Program in a patch and go back to input view and make sure you enable Variax control, then choose the required model on your JTV and you should see it appear in the x3l menu window (make sure the JTV modelling is on by pressing the model knob and ensuring it illuminates). Save the patch. Now when you return to this patch it should automatically select the model for you.
I also own a v700 and my x3l remembers the model selection for both that and the JTV separately. The x3l can determine if I have the v700 or the JTV connected.
Hope that helps you get it working.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 2:56 PM (in response to edstar1960)Re: JTV with POD X3 Live - trouble getting "started"
conceptually I understand what you're saying ... sorry for being ignorant, but I need a bit more "hand holding" ... let me break down the parts where I need a bit more info:
maybe you're essentially saying this all has to be done on the X3L as there is no one software tool that assists me ... if I have that right, then maybe the rest falls into place
Connect your JTV to the x3l with the VDI cable. yep, no problems with doing that
Have your X3L input set to Variax ch1 for models. think I understand how to do this, just not sure if it's a "global" setting or something i'm doing for each patch/preset
Program in a patch using what? the pod buttons, gear box?
and go back to input view on the pod? as in go to the "screen" where I can check / set inputs?
and make sure you enable Variax control, don't know what that means ... what specifically do I set? ... does this mean the pod controls the variax?
then choose the required model on your JTV and you should see it appear in the x3l menu window (make sure the JTV modelling is on by pressing the model knob and ensuring it illuminates). this seems pretty clear, so I think I get that
Save the patch. save it using the standard X3L control buttons (the "press to save" one)
Now when you return to this patch it should automatically select the model for you assuming I'm connected with a VDI to the JTV (probably a stupid question, but just trying to make sure I get it)
the only thing that's not clear is can it do the alternate tuning ... maybe the answer is yes, but I have to set up a specific JTV model/tuning combo and save that to the JTV somehow / somewhere using workbench?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 12, 2012 2:48 AM (in response to jmpollard3)Re: JTV with POD X3 Live - trouble getting "started"
Hi - sorry for not being clearer in my reply.
Gearbox is the software editor for the X3L but I don't believe that ever got fully updated to support the JTV changes that were rolled in to the last X3L firmware released. So Gearbox does not allow you to set Variax CH1 or Variax CH2. So I think you need to do that tweaking i the X3L itself - that is how I did it as I never got into the habit of using Gearbox - I was happy to just tweak the box itself.
Here is what you need to do:
1) Connect your JTV to the X3L with the VDI cable.
2) Enable modelling on JTV by pressing the Model knob so it illuminates.
3) Select a patch location that you wish to update or create from new on your X3L
4) Press and hold the INPUTS button on the X3L - this will display your input options for the selected patch for TONE 1 and TONE 2, and whether or not VARIAX control is ENABLED.
5) Select the INPUT option for TONE 1 by rotating the control knob 1 below the display screen. It will give you these choices:
GUITAR + VX 1
GUITAR + AUX + VX 1
For now select GUITAR + VX 1 which will give you the JTV Variax Model and allow you to put a standard guitar in via the guitar input if you wish. You can select VARIAX CH1 if you only want the JTV model.
6) Leave TONE 2 set to SAME to ensure you get the same input to whatever you have programmed on TONE 2. The second control knob controls this setting.
7) Check that on the far right the display reads ENABLE GLOBAL CONTROL - if not then rotate control knob 4 to change from DISABLE to ENABLE
8) Use the arrow controls to the right of the display screen to navigate to the bottom half of the display which will display the Variax MODEL and TONE values.
9) This usually defaults to DON'T FORCE MODEL if you have not previously set a Variax model value, and if that is the case, then rotate control knob 1 to change the display to read the first available Variax model which will be the first memory position on your Tyler Variax Custom Bank 1 position 1. You will also notice that the display will now also show TYLER VARIAX V1.71 or TYLER VARIAX 1.82 (depending on what flash level your JTV is at). If you had a V700 attached it would show V700 etc.
10) You can now set the guitar model you want for the patch - either rotate the control knob 1 to select the desired model (which allows you access to Factory defaults as well as User created models) - or use the JTV controls to navigate straight to the model you want. You will see the display change to reflect whatever you set the JTV controls to.
11) Set the TONE value to taste - either by using control knob 2 or by moving tone control on JTV.
12) Save the patch using the PRESS TO SAVE button on the X3L.
You are now done. Repeat this for each patch you want to program in a JTV model change for.
NB: You cannot change the alternate tuning on the JTV from the X3L - in other words you can't select a specific alt-tune on the JTV for the selected model - you can only select the model memory location. You can then apply an alt-tune manually with the alt-tune knob - or select the alt-tune position before changing the X3L patch to have the alt-tune override the model setting. Or you can use WORKBENCH to create a model with an alternate tuning, then store that in a memory location, which you can then call up from the X3L - but if you do this then make sure the ALT-TUNE knob on the JTV is set to MODEL to allow it to use the tuning in the memory location otherwise the alt-tune knob setting will override it to whatever it is set to - so if you have it on STANDARD but an model in open G you will actually get STANDARD Tuning, or if the knob is set to OPEN D and you have an open G model then you actually get OPEN D - remember the ALT-TUNE knob overrides the model setting unless it is set to MODEL.
If you want the ability to dynamically pick the tuning as well as the model on the JTV then that feature is only available with the HD500, HD/Pro on latest firmware in conjunction with JTV on firmware v1.82.
It is not available for the X3l or the JTV on v1.71 flash.
Hope that answers all your questions. Let me know if you need anything more.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Message was edited by: edstar1960 (forgot to include step to ensure modelling on JTV was switched on)