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jamminforever Just Startin' 27 posts since
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Oct 17, 2012 9:06 PM

New owner of POD HD-500 ....

Just a few questions regarding the POD HD500... Just picked one up the other day and printed out the manual.... ( heh,,, thanks to the lighting fast printers at work.... it's a long manual.. )

 

My primary reason for purchasing the POD-500 is for effects only, but in the future it I may use the amp modelling stuff for other amp sounds and also to use it in case my amp goes down, I can plug it into the PA directly and run it off the power amp.

 

First question.... Can I plug my guitar into the POD 500 and use it with headphones without needing a power amp?

 

And lastly, my rig consists of a Mesa Boogie Mark V head and a recto 2x12 cab.. I want to use the HD-500 for just effects. I've heard about and read the 4cm. I understand the benefit of this is to place certain effects before and after the preamp, as certain effects tend to sound better in such cases. For what I can think of now, I will be using different choruses, some delay, flange and phaser and also using the expression pedal for a wah... How and what effects sound best before and after the pre-amp? Would I be better off with the 2 cable method or is 4 better in my case using effects only? My primary concern is preserving, best I can, the tone from my mesa... Anything else, regarding the type of amp I have, I may need to know to get the best results from this setup?

 

The manual seems so daunting, don't know where to start, except give it a good read over when I get some time over the weekend.

  • clbryant1981 Just Startin' 6 posts since
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    Oct 17, 2012 9:39 PM (in response to jamminforever)
    Re: New owner of POD HD-500 ....

    Yes you can plug headphones in without using an amp, note that the tones won't sound the same as when plugged into an amp or through a PA.

     

    The HD500 is a great board, spend some time getting the tones like you want them and you'll never look back!

      • jimsreynolds Power User 2,227 posts since
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        Oct 18, 2012 10:33 AM (in response to jamminforever)
        Re: New owner of POD HD-500 ....

        Have a look at the document here.  It explains what 4CM is and where the effects go when you use 4CM --> http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2523

         

        If you are happy with this idea then the specific instructions for setting up 4CM on the HD500 are here -->  http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2522

         

        There are other good resources on 4CM on this site if you need them, including this video -->  http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2112

         

        One point to remember with FX Order in general is that there is no one 'right' way to sequence them and taste is a big factor.   The list below is one example of a classic approach though. 

         

        In front of the amp:

        • Distortions
        • Overdrive
        • Wah

        After the amp:

        • Delay
        • Reverb

        Usually in front of the amp:

        • Compressor
        • Pitch shifter

        Usually after the amp:

        • Phaser
        • Flanger
        • Chorus

        Either side without preference:

        • EQ (note:  see Meambobbos High Gain guide for advice here)

         

         

        Google can fill in more details on effects order if desired.  example .... http://atoragon.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/perfect-guitar-effects-chain-order.html

  • RICHJONES Just Startin' 37 posts since
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    Oct 18, 2012 8:10 AM (in response to jamminforever)
    Re: New owner of POD HD-500 ....

    Jim Reynolds is the 4 cable guru on here.  Check out some of his stuff.  The rule of thumb with 4 cable, as well as any conventional pedal setup is that Wahs, Distortions, OD's, Comps, maybe flangers and phasers depending on the sound you're after, are going to sound best in front of the preamp. Delays, Chorus, Reverbs are going to sound best after the preamp.  I would recommend 4 cable because it offers more flexibility.  I'm using it for effects only right now too. 

  • RICHJONES Just Startin' 37 posts since
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    Oct 18, 2012 10:49 AM (in response to jamminforever)
    Re: New owner of POD HD-500 ....

    You deserve them man. I can't stress enough how easy all of your posts have made it to get "in the ballpark" with all this stuff.  Like I said in another thread, just follow the instructions step by step. Its as easy as that.

    • preciousgeorge Just Startin' 27 posts since
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      Oct 19, 2012 6:55 AM (in response to RICHJONES)
      Re: New owner of POD HD-500 ....

      I also noticed the "Output Options" settings affects tone big time.  If you choose "Combo Front" (which you may want with the rig you are describing), there are 3 settings with that,  Low, Focus, and High.  The default for Low & High is -47 and -50 of attenuation for both.  These 2 settings "eat up" all the lows/highs heading for the amp.  I am using my HD500 with no amp model, using the 1/4" unbalanced output into my AC-30 inputs.  I ended up setting both those Low & High to "flat", leaving the Focus on the default 570Hz.  I also like to compare the sound of the HD500 to my amp versus having it bypassed.  When the Tuner is selected, you can either have the HD500 muted or bypassed (knob 2 when the tuner is on).  You'll get a good sense of what the HD500 is really doing to your sound versus the sound of your guitar hooked to the amp with no HD500 effect.

       

      I enjoy these forums and am learning a lot as I am a new owner of the HD500.

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