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hollis1003

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Nov 21, 2012 11:53 AM

How to use Midi-Ox to edit my amp?

Guys, there is just WAY TOO MUCH to learn with Midi-Ox.

Does anyone have a simple way to use it to control the DT-50?

I don't want opinions or half answers. Please give me a difinitive way to use my Windows computer, M-Audio midi device, and Midi-Ox (or some other program) to control my DT-50.

I have to say that the update is pretty much useless without giving us some sort of Edit program and I am very dissapointed in Line 6 for doing this.

Even if I use my mom's iPad it seems I need to buy another device.

I appreciate the upgrade Line 6, but it does nothing for 90% of your customers.

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Nov 2, 2012 7:25 AM (in response to hollis1003)
Re: How to use Midi-Ox?

here's the basics: (copied from another thread i responded to)

after you setup your midi interface, pull down the view menu, select sysex
you'll have a command window... type in the midi message you want to send using the midi guides etc...
then pull down file and send.

you can copy and paste that code for others...
save it as a sysx file etc...

it aint pretty, and i'm far from an expert on midi....
but it worked for me...
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like i said... i'm not an expert... and i doubt you'll find anyone here that can teach an expert class on the matter (even if they had the time)

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- hollis1003
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  Nov 2, 2012 7:35 AM (in response to TheRealZap)
  Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
  
  Zap, I really appreciate the effort but I have no idea what to type. I have the midi guide.
  
  " type in the midi message you want to send using the midi guides etc..."?????????????
  
  That makes no sense. Like I said. I need step by step instructions and I bet that many other people are in the same boat. You might as well tell me in 100 words or less how to launch the space shuttle.
  
  I'm a smart guy, but I need to start from scratch on this. What does a midi message look like? Can you give me an example?
  
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  - TheRealZap
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    Nov 2, 2012 8:06 AM (in response to hollis1003)
    Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
    
    when i did it i had help, as you're finding out it's not easy... just trying to point you in the right direction...
    I quickly decided that the touchosc and templates were easier for me, so i went that route...
    so even though i've done it... i'm not a great resource for finer detail.
    
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    - hollis1003
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      Nov 2, 2012 8:11 AM (in response to TheRealZap)
      Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
      
      Can you post the templates? Anything to get me going.
      
      I'm sure I have the intelligence to figure this out but it's like learning chinese.
      
      I was trying to get a midi dump from the amp so I have a basis that I can then just edit to what I want, but I can't even get that to work.
      
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      - TheRealZap
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        Nov 2, 2012 8:20 AM (in response to hollis1003)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        I'll try to dig for some of the info i used... but i've been digging for a few days now, and haven't found what i was looking for.
        
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WardMan
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Nov 21, 2012 11:54 AM (in response to hollis1003)
Re: How to use Midi-Ox?

I've just prepared a video tutorial on this. I'll PM you the link (I'm not sure what the rules are about posting links to your own website here). If anyone else is interested, please send me a PM.

Here's the link: http://www.strictlyguitar.com/how-to-use-midiox-with-your-line-6-dt25-or-dt50-amplifier/#

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- TheRealZap
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  Nov 8, 2012 4:42 AM (in response to WardMan)
  Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
  
  you're more than welcome to post a link here
  
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  - hollis1003
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    Nov 8, 2012 5:15 AM (in response to TheRealZap)
    Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
    
    Here is the link to his video:
    
    http://www.strictlyguitar.com/how-to-use-midiox-with-your-line-6-dt25-or-dt50-amplifier/#
    
    This is good but it only sends one midi message at a time. My method programmed every voicing at once. I will try to post my method with an explanation later. I still have not figured out how to stop the process, though. I have to physically disconnect the usb cable while the midi send is in an infinite loop.
    
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    - TheRealZap
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      Nov 8, 2012 5:31 AM (in response to hollis1003)
      Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
      
      great video! saves the hex conversion, and makes it pretty straightforward.
      
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      - evilmikehoo
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        Nov 8, 2012 10:10 AM (in response to TheRealZap)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        I've tried it, but it won't work for me for some reason. The amp just goes crazy and the commands or whatever just scroll like mad! Am I missing something?
        
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        TheRealZap
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        Nov 8, 2012 12:24 PM (in response to evilmikehoo)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        sounds like you might have the same midi loop type issue that hollis seems to get. No idea, what interface do you use? perhaps we can narrow it down to something common.
        
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        evilmikehoo
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        Nov 8, 2012 12:34 PM (in response to TheRealZap)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        M-Audio UNO
        
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        TheRealZap
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        Nov 8, 2012 12:39 PM (in response to evilmikehoo)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        did you get the latest drivers from the m-audio site?, I've used that interface myself without any issues.
        not sure if it would work... but maybe try only connecting to the midi in.
        
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        evilmikehoo
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        Nov 8, 2012 12:45 PM (in response to TheRealZap)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        It worked fine downloading the firmware. I think I actually updated the drivers the day 2.0 came out. I'll give it a try with just using midi in and let ya know how it went.
        
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        evilmikehoo
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        Nov 8, 2012 1:25 PM (in response to TheRealZap)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        OKAY!!!!! I redownloaded the drivers - just to be sure - and hooked up JUST the "midi in" and it works like a champ!!!! I played around a bit and did the factory reset and all works fine. Now I have lots to play and experiment with! Thank you very much! You, too, WardMan!!!!!
        
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        TheRealZap
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        Nov 8, 2012 1:34 PM (in response to evilmikehoo)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        there is some midi routing in midi-ox that may have been causing your issues... glad you have it working anyway!
        
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        chrisolson68
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        Nov 20, 2012 6:33 AM (in response to TheRealZap)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        Routing was my issue, but once I stumbled across the setting, everything went off without a hitch! Thanks for the vid!!
        
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        WardMan
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        Nov 8, 2012 4:13 PM (in response to evilmikehoo)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        Glad it worked for you. I've had my share of problems with the DT25 and MidiOx as well. I had trouble with the firmware upgrade and had to go back to 1.0 to get any sound out of the amp and then try again. I've also had problems when it's been plugged into MidiOx. Honestly, sometimes turning it all off and resetting the amp seems to fix something!
        
        I'm interested in this idea of being able to send more CC messages at a time. I'll experiment with that next. For now, glad the video helped. I've decided that if I blog all the things I'm discovering, I'll be able to go back to the videos to help myself in the coming months when I'm sure to forget some of these things
        
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      Nov 17, 2012 2:53 PM (in response to hollis1003)
      Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
      
      Interesting thing is that you capture the messages send to form a Sysex file:
      - first turn on login of Midi-Ox and set it to raw midi;
      - Next send the settings for a certain channel and voicing etc. and check the log file's content. Copy the hex messages in the log file and paste it in the sysex view.
      - You can send the midi data from this window to the DT
      - You can also save the midi data to a file to have preset switching.
      
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      - therightclique
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        Nov 26, 2012 1:39 AM (in response to harmaes)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        What does it mean to set MidiOx to 'raw midi'? How do you do that?
        
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        harmaes
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        Nov 26, 2012 1:45 AM (in response to therightclique)
        Re: How to use Midi-Ox?
        
        Select File - Log in the Midi-Ox menu and choose Raw Midi Messages in the Log Format.
        
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Jan 27, 2013 3:17 PM (in response to hollis1003)
Re: How to use Midi-Ox to edit my amp?

Don't waste your time with Midi Ox. Go to this thread and get DT Edit and you will never look back...

http://line6.com/support/thread/89457?tstart=0

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- theoptimizers
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  Feb 26, 2013 8:42 AM (in response to radatats)
  Re: How to use Midi-Ox to edit my amp?
  
  Or if you have a Mac or iPhone, you can try DT Customizer...
  
  http://www.cunningham-photo.com/DTCustomizerToGo
  
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