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MarkCline Just Startin' 36 posts since
Jan 26, 2007
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Apr 8, 2012 4:36 PM

Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

Here's my line up:

 

JTV69 Sunburst

Variax 700 Trem in Blue with the external Roland GK3

Cort G250 with Roland GK-Kit-GT3 installed

Pod HD500

Roland GR55

 

I love my JTV69 and I much prefer the guitar sounds of the JTV/HD500, but the GR55 electric sounds are good too plus all the synth stuff. I just found out that our keyboard player is going to be out for several months because of a schedule change at work. I'm going to need to cover a lot more keyboard territory, so I'm considering installing a GK Kit on my JTV69.

 

I've done a bit of reconasance work, and I believe I have room for everything, but when inspecting the jacks for the VDI and 1/4 inch, I found quite a bit of circuitry on the 1/4 inch jack. I never plan to use this jack and I would like to terminate it internaly, and use it's position to install the 13 pin connector for the GK.  Here's my question: I may be dreaming, but is there any way to get a schematic, or at least guidance as to how to terminate the wires properly to simulate the jack without it having to be there?

 

I know that there must be some switching going on to tell the guitar when it is on battery, and to route the models and mags to the 1/4 inch. I always plan to use this guitar with my HD500 as the power source through the VDI cable, so the battery will be moot, and with the GK Kit and the GR55 I'll have built in redundancy in both directions should any of the above fail.

 

I know this will probably void the warranty but, I'm an electronics tech by trade, and I installed the Kit in my Cort G250, so I'm pretty confident in my ability to install the same in my JTV69 if I can just figure out what to do with the 1/4 inch output jack.

 

I know that I could go with the external GK. I just hate to ugly up my pretty sunburst, but at the same time I don't want to relegate my JTV to back up duty because I need the synth sounds to cover for the next several months. Besides, even though it's a pain dealing with 2 cables, it is really fun to be able to have the best of both worlds at my feet and fingertips. It'll be like having a poor man's version of Adrien Belew's setup.

 

Any other techs out there, or maybe some help from Line 6? I can probably reverse engineer it, but my undying gratitude to anyone who can save me the time and trouble.

 

Thanks!

  • johnnyayyy Iknowathingortwo 1,170 posts since
    Feb 24, 2010
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    Apr 25, 2012 11:11 AM (in response to MarkCline)
    Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

    MarkCline wrote:

     

    I'm pretty confident in my ability to install the same in my JTV69 if I can just figure out what to do with the 1/4 inch output jack.

     

     

    I had a similar dilemma and solved the problem by leaving the 1/4" jack connected, popping it out of the Variax jack plate, and simply pushing it inside the body.

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    Apr 9, 2012 10:30 AM (in response to MarkCline)
    Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

    Hi Mark,

     

    if you succed in installing GK internal kit on a JTV69, please share some photos and little bit info how you did it with rest of us - where did exactly put GK's PCB, pots, knobs, if you did any drilling etc. I'm also thinking about this mod of my JTV-69 but I'm not so skillful, so I would ask my friend who has more experience with this and detailed info from you would be very heplfull.

     

    Thanks in advance

    Jan

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        Apr 20, 2012 10:38 AM (in response to MarkCline)
        Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

        I have just ordered Roland GK-KIT-GT3. As soon as I get it, I will do some preliminary photos and measurements of cavities and I will try to find place for it (mainly for PCB) inside JTV69...

        • stevekc Just Startin' 114 posts since
          Feb 7, 2007
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          Apr 20, 2012 11:00 AM (in response to JanKupsa)
          Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

          I'm interested in this too

           

          I'm Elantric at www.vguitarforums.com

           

           

          I used one of those ebay GK-3 Mountng rings from the UK for my GK-3 External install on my JTV-69

           

          http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1000134.jpg

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    Apr 24, 2012 9:57 AM (in response to MarkCline)
    Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

    So I have recieved Roland GK-KIT. Roland's PCB can be placed in same cavity as Line6's one, but I need to find solution how to fix it here . Cable from Roland's pickup with connector is small enough to go throug hole for cables from Line6's piezzos. I haven't removed Pick guard yet, but I don't think there will be any problem with placing Roland's pickup correctly, I just need to make hole for cable, hopefully without any big drilling. Biggest problem for now seems to be where to place 13-pin connector - next to jack or next to digital connector? I will post more info during weekend, I hope to have more time for looking into it...

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      Apr 25, 2012 11:02 AM (in response to JanKupsa)
      Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

      Just one quick update, I found out, that it's possible to turn Roland's pickup upside down (Roland logo will be close volume pot) and reorder cables on connector from this pickup, so I will need only to make small hole from there to large cavity under Pick guard... Stay tuned for another info ;-)

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        Apr 29, 2012 9:26 AM (in response to JanKupsa)
        Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

        Another quick update - Since I'm not using battery for JTV (I already sold it with charger) I will use battery cavity for Roland's PCB. I will try to drill small hole from humbucker cavity into this battery cavity as a shorcut for cables from Rolands pickup and maybe for another staff (like cables from volume control) if I need it. I will also use battery "case" (don't know right english word) and put Roland's PCB into it instead of placing it into Line6's PCB cavity - it will be safer and also Roland's PCB fits there perfectly. I only need to replace battery cover with another plastic because I need to use that "hole" in the right side where you press cover to open it...

    • merman_96 Just Startin' 34 posts since
      Feb 12, 2007
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      May 2, 2012 8:52 AM (in response to MarkCline)
      Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

      Great pictorial !  I have done several gk kit installs myself, but never on a JTV. I have learned a few tips here too,( I'm going to Lowes to find those inserts today !!).

       

      Thanks for posting.

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        May 9, 2012 11:28 AM (in response to merman_96)
        Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

        Hi Mark,

         

        I like your work! I also managed to do my own instalation of GK-Kit. I used little bit different aproach. Since I don't need/use battery for powering JTV (I use it solely with POD HD500) I used battery holder and placed Roland's PCB there. I've also disconnected cables from this holder to have more room in the hole to cavity with Line6's main PCB because I've routed cables to 13-pin connector through there (friend of mine make longer for me, original were too short for my needs). I've installed Roland's pickup upside down (part with logo is next to pickup) because I like it better (I change order of cables from pickup to have them correctly recognised by my Axon 100 mk II and to have full compatibility with other gear if needed). I've routed cable from pickup under humbucker and then I've drilled hole from under the humbucker to cavity with battery holder to have shorter way for cable. I've placed 13 pin connector next to VDI one - I've decided to keep classic jack connectro in place in case I ever need it. Connector fits perfectly to cavity with Line6's main PCB, it sits right next to and little bit under main PCB, of course after some carefull drilling.

         

        I've only used pickup without any other controls - no switches, volume pod, led. Now I'm working with POD HD500 midi capabilities to see if I can control everything I need on Axon with POD and then I will decide if I need any phisical control on guitar.

         

        So my approach is little bit different than Mark's, in my opinion both have their advantages and disadvantages according to mine / Mark's preferences. I like to see more options how something can be done ;-)

         

        Oh, and some pictures of course!

         

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          • litesnsirens Iknowathingortwo 649 posts since
            Mar 20, 2010
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            May 21, 2012 1:02 PM (in response to MarkCline)
            Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

            I really like this idea and I am thinking of endeavouring on a project like this so I really appreciate the ideas and the pics.  I would like to get the GR55 I'm guessing if like Mark posted I add a volume pot for the GK pick up then using the two volume pots I could use one or the other or blend the two.  I am also wondering if I could use the midi from the HD500 to choose patches on the GR55 so that I only really have one device under foot so to speak. I could leaver the GR55 near the back of the stage.  Has anyone tried this yet?

  • buge2 Just Startin' 2 posts since
    Jul 21, 2011
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    Nov 30, 2012 11:55 AM (in response to MarkCline)
    Re: Installing a GK Kit on a JTV69

    Hi All, I don't usually post stuff but ever since I got my JTV-69 I've been wanting to get midi onboard, rather than outboard, and there have been all sorts of inventive ways of doing it. But I'm not that hands on so I found a guy who is, told him what I was after, and I've got the perfect JTV-69 with onboard GK3, midi volume know, mixer mini switch to switch between JTV or midi or both, and S1/S2 sprung miniswitch to change patch or bring up the ( in my case ) GR-33 tuner etc. I'm over the moon ! Here's a pic:jtv midi.JPG

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