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jooshy58 Just Startin' 14 posts since
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Nov 30, 2012 11:43 AM

next firmware hopes!?!

so who else hopes there will be more hi gain amps on the next flash memory such as the peavy 5150 or 6505, randall v2 or t2, framus cobra, diezel or even newer models from engl like the savag or invader.

  • lforward00 Just Startin' 34 posts since
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    Nov 30, 2012 12:38 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    My personal preference for the HD300 would be better equalizers, Cab DEPs and increased flexibility (more like the 500) for the fx chain.

     

    I would be quite happy to have the number of amp models reduced to achieve that.

  • jws1982 Iknowathingortwo 263 posts since
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    Nov 30, 2012 1:25 PM (in response to jooshy58)
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    I think it's actually getting about time for a POD HD MKii.  Something with more processing power, even the possibility of dual processors for spillover and smooth patch transitions.  I'd even love to see the dedicated boost button, from the POD HD 400, come to the 500.  The POD HD is now two years old, so maybe the next model is well into development.

     

    Oh yeah, something on the "CPU limit exceeded" stuff on the POD HD500.  I wish I could load whatever effects I wanted into each block.  Then, while using the patch, if an effect was going to put it over, just not let me engage it.

     

     

    ..Oh, another thing!   I wish that, like on the M13, you could do different settings for each effect in a block.  Then, you could cycle through them somehow using the assigned footswitch.  That way, I could have three different setups for my delay effect without having to take up three effects blocks, which I can't do anyways because it puts me over the CPU limit.

  • chimp_spanner Just Startin' 336 posts since
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    Nov 30, 2012 1:32 PM (in response to jooshy58)
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    One of the things I'd like to see is a dedicated cabinet block, so we could run one amp into two cabinets without having to use twice the DSP just to clone amp settings. The cab block would need phase/delay controls. Maybe a control for "re-sizing" the impulses as well. That's about it really.

  • stevem48048 Just Startin' 43 posts since
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    Nov 30, 2012 2:06 PM (in response to jooshy58)
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    All these requests sound great. I wish these would've came with 2 independent inputs for allowing 2 guitars to jam

    simultaneously. I will "NEVER" venture away from Line6, but a buddy of mine purchased a BOSS JS-10, and i must

    say, this thing is the S_ _t !!!  Never been a huge BOSS fan ! But this unit is equipped with that option and it is really

    fun... On a different note, I'd love to see the amp models mentioned above + Roland JC120 would be awesome...

    • chimp_spanner Just Startin' 336 posts since
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      Nov 30, 2012 4:18 PM (in response to stevem48048)
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      Yeah it seems weird that they abandoned some of the ideas from the X3 Pro. You would think that they could just take all of the good ideas they've already come up with, keep them, and just make them better. An extra pair of instrument/mic inputs wouldn't have added that much more to the cost!

    • jws1982 Iknowathingortwo 263 posts since
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      Dec 3, 2012 9:30 AM (in response to stevem48048)
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      It does.  You make a stereo chain, set the first amp to use the Guitar In, and the 2nd to use the Aux in.  I have a patch like this that I use for some cover gigs.  Sometimes we have someone come up and play with us.  They plug in to the Aux in, then we both play through the POD and have totally separate sounds.  I have a comp and screamer set up on both amps, and a delay on one.  I'd have a delay on both, but the POD doesn't offer enough DSP power, according to itself.

  • Akeron Just Startin' 224 posts since
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    Nov 30, 2012 2:08 PM (in response to jooshy58)
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    Two mic on the same cab

  • DeanDinosaur Iknowathingortwo 443 posts since
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    Nov 30, 2012 5:54 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    1-Real world EQ.

    2-Add a spkear cabinet module  indepenent of the amp or preamp, so you can run one amp or preamp into two different speaker cabinets

    3-Add option for Power amp alone so you can mix and match power amps with various preamps.

    4-Compressor inside the amp module like originally started with Kemper then adopted by AXE II, it's a brilliant idea that Kemper came up with wich makes the dynamic response to the fingers more sensitive than real world amps, You will have the same volume level but if you play hard you distort and play soft and it's clean.

  • alfmetal70 Just Startin' 104 posts since
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    Dec 1, 2012 1:48 AM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    I have all wath I want with the distortions that have in this moment the POD HD (Soldano and Mesa Boogie), I miss the Jazz Chorus clean, with that model can be perfect the POD HD

     

    Also a good eq like some model with 31 band, with that I can think that is just as good for entry to the "defenitive" machine for a musician

     

    Anyway I am very happy with the POD HD, have much versatily, I can play 80s sound like Motley Crue-Warrant-Dokken (using the SLO model) and then change to a modern sound like Metallica "Black album" only with some moves and presets. I have in this moment more "colours" for play with my band, and give to the own music more exactly intention for the tone, is very conffortable.

     

    Greetings

  • PRSGuy Just Startin' 9 posts since
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    Dec 1, 2012 2:12 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    +1 Jazz Chorus Clean

     

    And now for something completely different:

     

    I would like there to be decibel meter as an effects option (like a pre/post fader meter on a board). This wouldn't be something you would use all the time, but it would allow you to insert it as an effect and balance all your patch output levels from within the HD500; versus the way I do it now using a DAW / Mixing board / HD500. Even better make it a global utility that you can use across all patches.

     

    I find using the meters gives a much better base line versus what your ears percieve as loud or soft etc...

  • soundog Just Startin' 30 posts since
    Sep 10, 2007
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    Dec 1, 2012 2:21 PM (in response to jooshy58)
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    - ability to turn the darned Looper switch off, and ability to assign it to other things....

    - another FX Loop (Send/Return) block so you can use one for each signal path

    - ability to add more than one MIDI command per footswitch (cool!)

    - ability to use LED indicator light on footswitches without having to assign them to a block (ie.if using them as a MIDI footswitch)

  • irishpriest Just Startin' 28 posts since
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    Dec 1, 2012 4:24 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    Operation:

     

    I want Amp models to represent the amps in a way that amps work. I would like them to model an amp completely not just one part. If I select a Mesa Boogie dual rec I want to that the ability to play with all 3 the channels. I want access to each of the v3 voicings for each channel. Access to the reverb on the amp. etc etc. Dont break the amp into parts and call it 3 new models. This isnt a pissing contest. I want line 6 to model the amps right down to the way the knobs respond for that amp as close as they can get. I own a Dual Rec and anyone else who has one knows they dial in much different then most amps. If I dial my pod in like my Mesa it isnt even close.

     

    They brag about how close the amp sims are too the real deal on one channel but they have left out the other 90% of the amps functions and features.

     

    Cabs:

     

    - Load your own cab/impulses: Its no secret that the cab emulations for the Pod aren't great and many home studio users are getting better results, and making their impulses available to the public. For some reason Line 6 thinks this is terrible and will not allow its users to take advantage of better cab options. Instead they released this Cab DEP thing, which is a cool idea and more flexibility is always welcome but I cant help but think it feels like a bandaid solution that has come out of their stubborness to admit they havent done a good job with cabs. Let us use whatever cabs we want!

     

    -MICS! Add the ability to have multiple mics on one cab and multiple cabs for one cab.

     

    -Mic ROBOT! Add the ability to position Mics around your cabs however you want too. Like  the mic robot Ramsteins guitarist uses in studio.

     

    In Studio / Live:

     

    - Re-amping (duh)!

     

    - Real Eq's, once again Line 6's stubborness to fix this issue baffles me. No I dont want to learn to convert your %'s into Frequencys just so I can make minor tweaks to my amp. NO ONE DOES THIS, BECAUSE ITS A BAD IDEA!

     

    - Speaker Breakup - Add this feature to emulate the way a real amp responds when is it pushed hard at high and low gain situations.

     

    - Overdrive/ Distortion pedals mulligan: Re work the models for these, They are terrible. I actually went out and bought a Ibanez TS9 Overdrive pedal because of how bad the model is for it and others.

     

    Construction:

     

    - On/Off switch: Holy #$% words cannot describe how stupid this move was!

     

    - Longer Power Chord(sic): This is almost as stupid as the on/off switch. It is impossible to play this thing live with a 6'  cord. The X3 Live had a cord that was around 20' long, Hint: Line 6 you had it right the first time.

     

    - Bigger LCD: And use some colors! Even if it is just 8-16 colors, it would make a world of difference in the way you manage all the stuff going on when no computer is handy.

     

    - Bring back X3 Live Handles: It seems kinda wierd but I really miss those! They were big and awesome. Kept you from damaging your unit live with your foot, and I used to carry my X3 Live around everywhere with it. Transporting the HD is just akward, I had to find an old duffle bag to put it in when going anywhere. Yuck!

     

    - Rework the USB Port: For whatever reason it sucks on the HD, there is tons of threads about it breaking on users without any abuse or damage. This includes myself, I had to glue the center piece back in and now Im afraid to even plug it in unless there is new Firmware available that I must have. This should be covered un warrentee as a defect like the audio drop out issues with the X3 Live.

     

    Thats it!

  • unperfectcircle Just Startin' 16 posts since
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    Dec 1, 2012 6:31 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    Speaking of HD500 I'd say:

     

    - external IRs

    - more DSP power

    - 20db cut and boost on both send and return signals of the FX loop

    - cab block

    - automatic phase correction between the two paths or at least a knob to manually adjust this parameter without the need to add useless fx blocks

    - global EQ with sliders on the chassis to quickly eq all the patches on the fly

    - frequencies labeled as they should

    - reamping capabilities

    - Diezel VH4 amp model

    - full amp models (all channels, voicings etc.)

    - on/off switch

    - built-in power supply with an external C14 panel mounted male connector in order to use common computer cables to power the unit

     

     

    I'd also like a Variax module (directly built into the POD or even sold as an external portable unit) to use with hexaphonic pickups like the Roland GK13

  • magpie Just Startin' 79 posts since
    Jan 25, 2007
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    Dec 1, 2012 8:11 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    The NR 1 BIGGEST UPGRADE Line 6 could ever do to the pod HD series is to implement custom IR import.

    It's baffling that they haven't done this for years! It would kill the competitors for sure in that price range.

    The cabs/mics in all the pods have always been the weak point and they make at least 80-90% of the sound.

    Anyone who try IR from Redwirez or Ownhammer or create their own eq matched IR's with Ozone know that it's all about IR's.

     

    It's easy to copy perfect guitar tones from recorded tracks or your own amp by creating eq tone matched IR's using Ozone in a DAW.

    Custom IR's makes the pod HD sound soooo much better.

    • mazuwa Iknowathingortwo 371 posts since
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      Dec 1, 2012 11:45 PM (in response to magpie)
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      I can't imagine it would be possibile to load own IRs into the POD HD, because I guess they are part of the firmware structure.

      This means you would need the original sourcecode of the firmware, add your desired IR, then compile your own created firmware and reflash your POD HD each time you make changes.

      I think the infrastructure of the current HD series cannot offer this.

      • PremiumJones Iknowathingortwo 238 posts since
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        Dec 1, 2012 11:48 PM (in response to mazuwa)
        Re: next firmware hopes!?!

        for the HD 300 I want some cab DEPs, EQs that make sense (frws instead of %) maybe a 7 or 10 band graphic EQ added, and an FX loop using the 1/4" outs as send/recieve when using XLR output.

         

         

        if anyone could do that, it would be Line6 :lol:

        • hollis1003 Iknowathingortwo 342 posts since
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          Dec 3, 2012 12:58 PM (in response to PremiumJones)
          Re: next firmware hopes!?!

          For those of us that have been asking for MORE, MORE, MORE of a good thing here is my very crude representation of what a POD HD 1000 should look like.

           

          Features:

          An additional chip for twice the processing power (no DPS limit issues)

          4-5 additional footswiches with additional functioning for the way they can be arranged

          One additional expression pedal

          Controls for both Amp A & B at the same time

          A larger display screen (probably even wider than what I have also)

          A direct USP input so that a memory stick type device could be used (maybe to save loops)

          Attachment for a cell phone (as memory storage or editing capability)

          A Fav switch so that no matter where you are you can hit that switch and get your favorite preset automatically

           

          Also included should be many of the upgrades others have suggested such as better/global EQ and the ability to run a direct out to PA while still running to an amp (a la the X3).

           

          Being able to save amps and FX with your favorite settings so that is what will come up anytime you choose that amp or FX.

           

          To me, this would fix 90% or more of the issues that people have been "complaining" about and also add the option of a $800-$1000 price range product that will compete (at least for some people) with the 11 Rack and Axe FX.

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  • brue58ski Just Startin' 287 posts since
    Jan 24, 2007
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    Dec 3, 2012 4:12 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    The same input/output options as the X3 including all the ASIO options.

  • Zombieslayer5P Just Startin' 38 posts since
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    Dec 3, 2012 4:37 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    On top of what others have said here, I'd like the amp models to be improves as well.  As one poster said, the models could react more like the real deal.  One thing I'd like to HEAR improved on the models is how the modeling represents the highs (especially on the high gain models).  When I listen closely to the HD modeling, I notice that the highs sound like there's some sort of overbearing white noise generator being used, and it makes the highs sound cloudy, indistinct, and a bit unmusical (don't get me wrong; properly tweaked, the models are more than useable/passable in a mix).  When compared to the real thing or a higher end unit like the Axe Fx II, I hear highs that give more of the proper "****** off hornet" type of tone, instead of sounding like some random hissing in the background.  A good example can be found here comparing HD modeling to Axe Fx II modeling.  Listen carefully to the highs on each and see if you notice what I am hearing.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4AQvDOGuqI

    • DeanDinosaur Iknowathingortwo 443 posts since
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      Dec 3, 2012 7:34 PM (in response to Zombieslayer5P)
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      The fireball in that Video sounded better in the POD to my ears. The AXE FX had a more high Fi sound which is problematic when you play mid gain and doesn't sound realisitc.  Most importantly, if there's a perceived improvement in the AXE II, is it reallyh worth $2600. you can get similar sounds from the HD300 at $300 that in a blind test, I highly doubt that anyone will be tell which is which.  The Fender cleans are better in the POD and most AXE II owner aren't happy at all with the fender cleans. the fact that there are videos comparing the HD300 to the AXE FX should be clear evidence that any differences are marginal and can go either way.

    • phil_m Expert Line 6 User 4,243 posts since
      Jan 25, 2007
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      Dec 3, 2012 8:14 PM (in response to Zombieslayer5P)
      Re: next firmware hopes!?!

      Frankly, I think comparing the highs of two modelers based on Youtube clips is pretty worthless. Their compression sucks the life out of everything. I actually don't think comparing clips really matters that much in general. You don't know if you're going to like a unit until you're able to play through it yourself.

       

      I'm pretty content with the HD modeling as it stands. I have made tones with my HD500 and DT-25 that stack up almost equally to my real amps and pedals. The differences that are there probably end up being more attributable to differences in speakers and tubes more than the amp modeling at this point. The amp modeling on the HD is very good. I think that it's at the point that in the hands of capable users, it can stack up very well against real miced amps and other modelers.

  • afr0007 Just Startin' 1 posts since
    Dec 3, 2012
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    Dec 3, 2012 9:05 PM (in response to jooshy58)
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    I want JCM2000 and Matchless DC-30!

  • joel_brown Just Startin' 90 posts since
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    Dec 3, 2012 10:33 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    The ONLY thing I want is a realistic EQ. 

     

    I ended up buying a Dual 31 Band EQ to stick between the PODHD and Amp.  I know that was overkill but it made a huge differance.  I tried using the built in EQs, wow that sucked and I think I'm being kind.  They work if you want to spend endless hours figuring them out and wasting multiple slots in the chain.  I feel sorry for the guy that developed them.  He can't have much self-esteem now.  I don't know of anyone that likes them, just a few people that spent enough time to get them to work halfway good.

     

    Line6 created a very good product and I'm happy they did.  For me it would be a great product if it had a realistic EQ.  Did I mention EQs ??????????

  • scheater5 Just Startin' 44 posts since
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    Dec 4, 2012 8:21 AM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    I've been doing alot of pondering on it lately, and I just have to say one more time how huge a deal it would be to me (and obviously others) to be able to have cabinets seperate from amps and load external IRs.  I would be highly interested in some feedback from Line 6 on the feasibility of this, because I think they'd find it a big deal to the community of users.  If it turns out to be impossible load external IRs, then at least seperate the cab from the amp in the pod. 

  • GTLazer Just Startin' 79 posts since
    Jun 7, 2012
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    Dec 4, 2012 8:41 AM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    The main thing I would like, which I don't think has been mentioned yet, is the ability to save my own default settings for the various amps, effects, etc. It's all well and good having 'template' patches, but once you've got a favourite setting for umpteen amps and effects, the number of combinations makes it totally impractical.

     

    Other than that, I agree with everyone who has mentioned improved EQ, separate pre- and power amps for mixing and matching, the one amp into two cabs thing, and custom IRs would be cool, too.

  • MarcoSP Just Startin' 10 posts since
    Jul 21, 2007
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    Dec 4, 2012 9:07 AM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    I'd give my left pinky toe for the Big Bottom amp that I had in the X3 live....

     

     

    ps.: Oh, and separate output controls for XLR and 1/4' (like the ones X3 live has).

     

    My band recorded this DVD in december 2011, I used only the X3 live for my guitar sound (the amp was there just as a prop, I'm using in-ear monitors). The sound came out just the way I like it and it was the same in my ears during the performance (stereo and everything).

    Here's a video (music begins at 1:40):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev7VERiNpNc&t=1m40s

  • petef Just Startin' 28 posts since
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    Dec 4, 2012 2:06 PM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    Some other comments on HD500 firmware (and editor):

     

    GUI: Allow the user to move the expression pedal while setting limit ranges in control function to preview the sound.  Example, setting Drive and Volume to EXP to keep a near constant output with varied drive and volume, moving the pedal takes the GUI out of setting mode.  Need to keep going back and selecting the parameter and min/max values.

     

    Looper:  Add a way to save the default looper settings (pre/post, 1/2 or full speed, etc.).  Global or per patch

     

    Tempo:  Allow a default setting to be saved with each patch. (example, I have a 'surf' patch and it needs a 140bpm tempo but uses the last user 'stomped' value)

     

    Input A/B source:  Add a 'none' setting to the input (so users don't have to select MIC and turn the input gain down).  This would be less ambiguous.

  • sosmusic Just Startin' 18 posts since
    Apr 18, 2007
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    Dec 7, 2012 10:26 AM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    DIEZEL VH4 !! DIEZELVH4 !! DIEZEL VH4 !!!! DIEZEL VH4 !!!! DIEZEL VH4 !!!

     

    I'm SUPER happy with my POD HD 500 otherwise

  • CairnsFella Just Startin' 205 posts since
    Sep 16, 2012
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    Dec 20, 2012 12:35 AM (in response to jooshy58)
    Re: next firmware hopes!?!

    I think IrishPriest's suggestions most closely match my own wishes, but with one exception. So (with some degree of repetiion of Irish's points) I would specifically like :-

     

    Absolute number 1. At least ONE more bass amp model. Something punchy and modern please.

     

    2. Improved and correctly setup (i.e. frequency based) EQ.

     

    3. Improved user manual to explicitly explain the intended usage of basic settings (such as, but not limited to, input settings).

     

    4. (Although it may be my old PC... I see enough comments to suggest) more stability when used with Edit software.

     

    5. (possibly somewhat fantastical) some form of "gain wizard" that when engaged would automatically adjust all gain related parameters in a patch to some pre-determined level, with the ultimate result that all patches have a uniform output. (I realise this would have tonal influences throughout a patch, especially if more than channel and master volumes need to be amended, but I really really wish I could load up new patches (as well as try existing ones I have not yet tried) without the massive differences in level.

     

    6. And as also mentioned before, I would prefer that the modelling was on a more like for like basis i.e. reflecting the specific contols of the unit (most specifically the amp) being modelled.

     

    Other than that, if we were talking about a new peice of HD hardware, then in addition to the above I would like to see:-

     

    1. More robust hardware (I break out into a sweat if I have unplug the USB cable given the reports here... and the epression pedal toeswitch 'crunch / click' is massive detterent from actually using it).

     

    2. DSP DSP DSP... Certainly enough DSP to run existing number of slots but with NO unaobtainable combination.. (I would accept that this would mean there would be spare DSP in probably 95% of patches, and as such some could argue that these could be used for additional blocks... Its a personal thing, but I would just rather know I am not going to run out of puff whatever I use.

     

    3. Wet / Dry out options on analogue and USB.

     

    4. Seperate headphone volume contol.

     

    5. Continuoulsy variable pots (or whatever the correct term is) i.e. ones with an LED ring based indication as to current setting, and therefore are correctly set for each patch selcted.

     

    Having said all this, I am actually pretty happy with the HD as is, and even if all the above were presented in a new model, I'd probably stick with what I have for quite some time to come...... (though that is more my wallet talking than a lack of desire for the listed improvements).

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