Ok, I figured the input part out, now my question is, input 1 and input 2? Are they seperate jacks, or I this just a reference digitally?

Hi Jason,

I would pan to center (i.e. 50% right, 50% left), unless you are using stereo effects and connecting to seperate channels on your PA. If you are playing through an amp, or other mono situation, center position is the best approach.

There are 4 inputs on the HD500: guitar in, aux, microphone and Variax, and both input channels 1 and 2 can be set to one or any combination of these.

You can also set input 2 to the "Same" as input 1, but this gives a stronger signal (effectively doubled), so you may want to try setting it to aux or mic, to help with your clean tone.

Hope that helps

Regards

Greg

Thanks for the tip. Maybe this is the first thing that made me feel dissapointed from Line 6, and they still haven't solved it. 99% of the time we'll play with one input only...so why double the input??? At least they should update the advanced manual and explain this issue.

I'm a metal player, so I had everything top notch. Even if it has lost a bit of gain, sounds more defined. I still haven't tried it in amp emulations since I go straight to a real amp.

lachinelli ha scritto:

 

...that made me feel dissapointed from Line 6, and they still haven't solved it. 99% of the time we'll play with one input only...so why double the input??? At least they should update the advanced manual and explain this issue....

they have not yet solved it and will never solve it in the future simply because there is nothing to fix ..

do not believe it?

ok!

set input 1 to "guitar" and input 2 to "Variax" .. (reverse this setting if you connect a variax)

you know very well that in path A can arrive only input 1 .. ok .. put an amp in path A and set pan A to the center,.. play and memorize that sound... if you want, do a recording of this sound with your DAW for a later comparison ..

now move the amp to pre-split position, return pan A to the left,.. play .. is the same sound as before? .. no, I would say no .. is quite weaker and less distorted .. or not?

Q.: why? ..

A.: because it lacks half signal, namely the Right side which should arrive from input 2 ..

Q.: why?
A.: because when you put a mono effect or an amp in pre-split position, inputs 1 and 2 are reconfigured as L & R of a single input signal, hence the need to have a setting "same" for input 2 to reconstruct the full signal ..

Q.: why the hell inputs 1 and 2 should be reconfigured as L & R of a single input signal when a mono effect or amp is positioned in pre-split path?

A.: good question!..

- input 1 and 2 are two fixed virtual inputs that exist only to give you the possibility to feed simultaneously 2 separate amps/fx with a single instrument or with 2 separate different instruments (as a example let say: guitar and voice), and therefore in the case of 2 separate amps/fx in path A and B, each input naturally must provide a full signal to the amp and fx on its related path..

- BUT, since the virtual inputs are always 2 (fixed!), and since it would not make much sense to send 2 full signals of the same instrument (or even alternatively 2 different instruments signals) both to 1 mono effect or amp that was instead positioned in pre-split path, the 2 inputs in this latter case would be reconfigured as L & R of a single-(supposed and expected) physical input signal ..

- therefore, still in this latter case, if the 2 inputs are instead set different-(unexpectedly) from each other, you get only the L part of the instrument set on input 1, and the R part (if any active,.. let say: your invented "null" option) of the other instrument-(dummy or not) set on input 2.. both theoretically feeding the same amp or mono fx in pre-split path position..

Q.: who told you that?
A.: nobody, I figured it out by myself after many experiments and sound comparisons and I am convinced that it is like just explained, as I am convinced that.. yes, and here I agree with you, the manual could have been written a little better ..

obviously if some people, like you and the other posters in this thread, prefer more the sound of the POD that they get with a halved input signal, everyone have their own tastes and are free to do as they want..

phil_m ha scritto:

 

I just saw this comment now, and I think you might be misdiagnosing the signal drop here. I don't think the drop in signal you're hearing has more to do with the pan settings and where you have the amp block. If you have the amp block before the split, the left side of its output will be going to Path A and the the right half will be going to Path B. Btw, do you have Path B muted in the mixer here? If you do, you will only be hearing the left side of the amp block's output. That would explain why the signal wouldn't be quite as loud as having the amp model in Path A. In your first scenario - amp block in Path A, Pan control centered, you'd be getting the full stereo output of the amp block...

in the experiment above, when the amp is in path A, the pan settings in the center serves only to not have to uncomfortably listen only to the left side (just for ease of listening), and not for the demonstration of what has been said, which is entirely based on the relationship between the input settings and the possible amp positions...

I have not muted path B because it was useless, since input 2 was set to a dummy instrument .. therefore when the amp is in path A there is no risk of hearing also the dry guitar signal through path B to confuse things..

that said, (regardless of the pan settings), when used with only 1 input, the amp sound in pre-split path position is weaker and less distorted..

when using instead both inputs for the same instrument, the amp sound in pre-split position is exactly the same (volume level and distortion level) to when it is in path A..

This is more than enough for me to prove the validity of what has been said before

hurghanico wrote:

 

I have not muted path B because it was useless, since input 2 was set to a dummy instrument .. therefore when the amp is in path A there is no risk of hearing also the dry guitar signal through path B to confuse things......

Paths A and B do not correspond directly to Inputs 1 and 2. If there is any amp/FX  positioned before the path split then each of Input 1 and Input 2 are routed to both Paths.

The only way to isolate Input1 in Path A and Input 2 in Path B is to make sure that there is no amp/FX placed before the path split in the preset.

Also, both Paths are stereo.

silverhead ha scritto:

 

...Paths A and B do not correspond directly to Inputs 1 and 2. If there is any amp/FX  positioned before the path split then each of Input 1 and Input 2 are routed to both Paths.

 

The only way to isolate Input1 in Path A and Input 2 in Path B is to make sure that there is no amp/FX placed before the path split in the preset.

 

Also, both Paths are stereo...

very true, I never said otherwise ..
In fact, in my demonstration I am referring clearly to what happens when something mono is in pre-split position ..
when there is nothing mono in pre-split, in A path arrives only input 1, and in path B arrives only input 2 ..

in this situation the amp in path A (separate) to be identical to when it is instead in pre-split, it needs both inputs to be the same (when it is in pre-split)