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twangboy Just Startin' 26 posts since
Feb 13, 2007
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Mar 10, 2011 8:34 AM

Version question

I currently have a Variax 300 and am looking to buy a 600 or 700 w/ trem. I was wondering if the trem units are different or ar they the same unit?

What problems are associated with either? I'd prefer to get a good used 700 as I believe the build quality to be better. Even used, they will be quite an investment for me and i really have become used to the older Variax body style. Plus, even at 1300 for the low end JTV, is out of any budget i could work up.

Right now i use the 300 into my X3 live for worship and am blown away by the versatility. I end up covering both acoustic and electric parts in the same song. A whammy would be wonderful for alot of the electric parts, i just don't know anything about the bridges on the trem equipped models.

Any input is greatly appreciated.

In Him, Alan

  • VARIAXED Just Startin' 52 posts since
    Aug 22, 2006
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    Mar 10, 2011 11:19 AM (in response to twangboy)
    Re: Version question-

    Hello Twangboy,  based upon my understanding. Line 6 commissioned a custom version of the LR Baggs X Tremolo Bridge for the Vaviax 600/700 guitars. Similar in many ways to a strat Tremolo bridge, except the twang bar can move up and down. As to the quality and comparison of these two Guitars, bridge stability and whatnots. I myself have only gleaned a small piece info pertaining my to friends Variax 700.  He had trouble with a loose whammy bar and the fix was to insert a nylon bushing into the whammy bar bridge hole and then to insert the whammy bar which solved the problem for time being. Do more research, use a hands on approach, beware of online purchasing, choose wisely and Good Luck...ZANDRU

      • es336td Just Startin' 182 posts since
        Jan 29, 2007
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        Mar 11, 2011 9:57 AM (in response to twangboy)
        Re: Version question-

        The 300 and 600 guts are identical... the 700 is different.   I have a 600 with the whammy bar...   nice, but...   


        1. You can only dive bomb or raise the pitch so much and the sound cuts out because of the string contact with the bridge.
        2. The metal cage around the circuit board (much like 300s) occasionally grounds out on the circuit board due to temperature or humidity, however shielding (even minimal) helps greatly.
        3. Nice guitars, but if you can swing it... the 700 is better... I just couldn't afford one at the time.
        4. The set screw that holds the whammy bar in is in an awkward place and can fall out.  It's the same size as the bridge screws, so get a bunch from Line 6 if you can.
        5. As with all of the 1st generation the 12 string tuning ability is poor at best.   You can't capo, or open tune any 12 strings... just change the pitch of the  unison strings.  IMHO worthless...


        Other than that... a nice guitar

  • 1oldguitarman Just Startin' 29 posts since
    Mar 10, 2008
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    Mar 12, 2011 7:04 AM (in response to twangboy)
    Re: Version question

    Hey, there.  I own two Variax 700 electrics and use them almost exclusively now.  "Blue" is serial number 00000001 (that's right, ONE), and "Red" was made a few years later.  Very minor differences between them. Mostly, these are really great, playable guitars.  Here's some of my experience, for what it's worth (thank you, Mssr. Stills):

     

    TREMELO:

    Regarding the setscrew for the tremelo arm, I've noticed from these forums that many users have experienced loss of the setscrew, which then causes a very loosely hanging whammy bar.  I talked w/ Line6 support but they don't stock parts like this.

     

    You can order a set of 20 setscrews from fastener-express.com (include the dash in their address) for less than $10 including shipping.  These are M3x0.5x3mm set screws with cup points.  Their part number is 32098.  These buggers are VERY small, but if you can manage to wrap just a tiny bit of Teflon plumber's tape around the threads, they should stay put for you.

     

    Regarding use of the whammy bar on 700's:  I do very little dive-bombing, more of the Gilmour-type of note-wavering.  I went to my local guitar shop, bought ONE extra spring for the tremelo and installed it.  When you go from 3 to 4 springs, the positions of the springs need to be changed from 1-3-5 to 1-2-4-5 to keep it balanced.  It makes the whammy-bar more firm, but even with HEAVY bending, the 700 has stayed in almost perfect tune.  I couldn't be more pleased with that.

     

    MODEL-SELECT KNOB:

     

    There's a fairly rare problem with the model-select knob, and the solution is simple & free.  You may notice the 700 doesn't change from one model to another sometimes when you rotate the knob one click ... or, maybe you rotate it several clicks and the modeling is one position off from the knob indication.  I had presumed the potentiometer had gone bad and lived with this problem for several weeks until receiving and swapping out a new pot.  Turns out, that's not the root-cause.  See my document in the Variax Guitars documents:  

     

    IMPROVED VARIAX 500/700 MODEL-SELECT KNOB CALIBRATION in Variax Guitars

     

     

    If you acquire a 700 electric, I think you'll love it!

    • EnglishJW Just Startin' 42 posts since
      Oct 15, 2008
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      Mar 12, 2011 7:21 AM (in response to 1oldguitarman)
      Re: Version question
      Thanks for the very helpful information.

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