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kmcnair1 Just Startin' 17 posts since
Sep 2, 2007
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Mar 26, 2012 11:26 AM

I found The PROBLEM!!

I have had DT25 Since OCT 2011. And it never did sound quite up to par, and to make matters worse I was running my HD 500 into it with an L6 link. The distortions were kinda buzzy, the delays were kinda mushy. nothing sounded really great. I programmed the hell out of this thing ,thinking it was me not getting it quite right.

well after one gig, it started making a weird buzzing,rattling sound on certain notes. Come to find out I had a bad power tube . I had it replaced are rebiased and it made this rig sing like theres no tomorrow! It sounds totally insane!  If any of you with this rig are getting so so results from you sound, I would check into it. Mine came from the factory brand new, with a failing power tube, and until it fails you will never know unless you have it checked. The rig sounds 75% better. Distortions are singing and creamy, delays are beautiful and trailing into tranparency. It sound great!!! Tubes are only covered for 90 days. It if it sound weird at first get it checked

I have read on the forums of a bunch of guys not happy with the sound. this could be the fix!
Kem

  • MartinDorr Just Startin' 98 posts since
    Nov 3, 2011
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    Mar 26, 2012 10:14 PM (in response to kmcnair1)
    Re: I found The PROBLEM!!

    Hey thanks, that sounds only too familiar. Got my rig end of October as well. Maybe they share the same bad batch of tubes ... As I am essentially a newby (stopped playing for 30 years ... and things have changed!) I was not able to pick up on sound issues (or may not have them), but I do definitly have a weird buzzing, rattling sound on specific notes at medium to loud volumes. Weeks ago, I took all the backing boards off and reseated the tubes and the issue went away unless I used very high volumes, but now its creaping back in ... and I started wondering how to approach this. As I said, with little experience on current amps/speakers and how they should behave at higher volumes, I was not so sure whether I am just a nit-picky amateur or whether there was really something not quite right. Will have to get back on to this ... although I have to say I'd rather play ;-) and at bed room levels I barely notice a hint of the problem.

    Thanks again for the feedback. I feel much better equipped to do more checking and/or describe to a service guy what's going on. I would have never guessed at the tubes and was pretty sure that there was a mechanical issue with the speaker or some component mounting. Maybe 1 or more of the tubes' base is a little out of spec and does not seat snug. Certainly worth having it checked out if another reseating does not help.

    Martin

    • LarryLion Just Startin' 117 posts since
      May 7, 2011
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      Jul 4, 2012 8:50 AM (in response to MartinDorr)
      Re: I found The PROBLEM!!

      I just stumbled on this thread - I was trying out a DT-25 at a dealer last night, but forgot to ask a few questions.  What brand of tube is supplied with the DT-25 from the factory, and where are they made?  Also, is there a need to re-bias the amp when adding new tubes?

       

      Many Thanks

       

      Larry

      • Krontab Just Startin' 201 posts since
        Mar 15, 2006
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        Jan 13, 2013 7:47 PM (in response to LarryLion)
        Re: I found The PROBLEM!!

        The dt25 faq has the brand and type info. Rebiasing is a good idea as the tubes they use vary quite a bit. I replaced mine with Mesa tubes and rebiased to their greens. That way I can replace them without rebiasing with green tubes. Color codes on Mesa tubes indicate a specific bias spec.

  • kdog Just Startin' 34 posts since
    Jan 25, 2007
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    Jan 16, 2013 12:20 PM (in response to kmcnair1)
    Re: I found The PROBLEM!!

    I just had a brainstorm, dudes: Somebody should create an amplifier that uses digital models of tube amplifiers instead of actual tube hardware, then you'd never have to deal with issues like that. Oh wait. Nevermind.

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