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soundchaser Just Startin'
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Feb 28, 2013 4:25 AM

HD 500 Routing Question

Greetings.  I have the HD 500/JTV combo.  I have always been an "amp guy" and have avoided going directly into the mixer for live performance.  However, the acoustic models sound much better directly into the board via xlr, but the when I use a distorted patch on the HD 500, along with a solid body model, it sounds like hell, directly into the board.  Is there a way to route the output signal, according to patch?  In other words when I kick in an acoustic patch on the HD, to make it send out of the XLR to the Board (and not via 1/4 to the amp), and in other patches, use the 1/4 inch output to the amp (and not via xlr to the Board)?

  • silverhead Expert Line 6 User
    silverhead
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    Feb 28, 2013 6:29 AM (in response to soundchaser)
    Re: HD 500 Routing Question

    Unfortunately this can't exactly be done with the HD500.

     

    It's a question that has been asked many times, and there are various previous threads/discussions here that get into some setups that can be useful workarounds in certain situations. Try exploring some of the threads in the More Like This panel in the right hand column of this page.

     

    Also, check out meambobbo's guide:

    http://www.foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/

     

    ... especially this page:

    http://www.foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/setup#dualOutput

    • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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      Feb 28, 2013 7:44 PM (in response to silverhead)
      Re: HD 500 Routing Question

      NOT SO FAST!

       

      Two ways to do this.  As said below, you can use the FX Loop.  For dirty patches, I would put all your processing in Channel A and put the FX Loop right before the mixer.  Connect the FX Send to your amp.  Mute both Channels in the Mixer.  So you are only sending to the amp via the FX Loop, and on patches where you send to your amp that way, you mute the mixer to prevent any signal going anywhere else via the other outputs.

       

      For acoustic patches, don't use the FX Loop.  Set the Mixer levels how you like them.  Use the XLR send to send the signal to the board.  Nothing is going to your amp - only to the board.

       

       

       

      The other way:

       

      For your acoustic patches, put all your processing in Channel A and pan Channel A full left in the Mixer.  Mute Channel B.  Attach the left XLR to the board.

       

      For your dirty patches, put all your processing in Channel B and pan Channel B full right in the Mixer.  Mute channel A.  Attach the right 1/4" out to your amp.  Attach a dummy 1/4" cable in the right 1/4" output, otherwise the Pod will sum your signal to mono for the 1/4" outs, so your acoustic patches would get sent to your amp as well as the board.

      • soundchaser Just Startin'
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        Mar 2, 2013 11:42 AM (in response to meambobbo)
        Re: HD 500 Routing Question

        OK, I admit it, I'm stupider than I thought.   Your answer looked simple enough, until I tried to apply it.  A bunch of questions.  When you say to put all the processing in Channel A, what does this mean and how do you do it?  Does this mean panning everything in one direction, or does it mean "moving" the amp up, as you would to set up a two amp setup?  Assuming the latter to be the case, how do I mute the channels in the mixer?  Also, do all effects have to be ahead of the effects loop, and where should the amp be in all this?  When I tested it out, the Master dial didnt work.  Is that normal?  I know this is asking a lot, but can anyone post a screen shot of the signal chain for a distorted patch so I can see how it's set up for this type of set up.  Much thanks.  Jeff

  • BlueViolince Just Startin'
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    Feb 28, 2013 8:54 AM (in response to soundchaser)
    Re: HD 500 Routing Question

    You could try putting an FX loop block at the end of your acoustic patch, and just plug the FX sends into DIs to the board.  Of course, you can't use any pedals in your loop then.  Might have to do some finangling with your fx loop levels.

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