Sep 28, 2009 1:55 PM
Swap out 6L6 power tubes for EL84s using Yellow Jackets?
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I've only owned this one weekend, but - it gets real loud real fast. I would like to be able to run this thing on 10 (Master Volume) so I get the full benefit of powertube overdrive. But that's not a reality in the clubs around here. (With low wattage tube amps running EL84s it is possible and sounds awesome with endless sustain)
So has anyone ever tried purchasing the yellow jackets and el84s for this amp? And, would this void the warrantee?
Also:
Regarding the SV Pre posts: Where do you purchase these and how much do they run?
Thanks
Which amp? You didn't post it.
6L6 tubes usually used in configurations that have that nice big beefy Fender sound.
EL84 tubes are often employed in a manner similar to classic Vox amps.
Both can get good clean sounds, but quite different in tone and timber and depth.
I've known folks to use the Yellow Jackets. They work, but you might also consider getting an amp with EL84 configuration instead.
But if you really want to try the Yellow Jackets, I say give it a try. Keep your options open. Cheaper to buy the Yellow Jackets than a used amp.
Make sure you have enough room, Yellow Jacket is basically like a socket adapter. It goes into the footprint of the 6L6 socket, and then the EL84 goes into it. So it might stick up to far in some configurations. I think they make shorter ones now that are just a bit more expensive.
Also, make sure you screw down the ground wire as instructed. Only problems I've ever heard of had to do with people skipping that important step.
It will take your typical Class A/B config and make it a cathode-biased Class A using EL-84 tubes.
Bear in mind that they will be considerably brighter than your 6L6 tubes.
I don't know how cranking up your amp to 10 with this make-shift conversion going in will affect the hardware and electrical components in the long run, but you will be able to crank up the power because it will be about 1/5th of the power when using the Yellow Jackets.
Good luck, and tell us how it goes.
Peace
phil
Sorry I didn't mention the amp. It would be for my new Spider Valve 212 MP-1. The reason I asked was because of the 2 best sounding (80s hair band style) amps I've heard - that had endless sustain - one was a real old Marhsall 30 with 2 EL84s and since it came with only a 1 12inch speaker they put in on a standard 4x12 Marshall cabinet. Everyone (that played guitar) at this place was asking about the amp because it sounded so good. Then I saw a Mesa Boogie (again - somewhere around 30 watts with EL84s - can't remember the model - might have been lonestar?) and again, it was sitting on a 4x12, had endless sustain, great crunch. I'm currently switch from a Carvin Legacy to this amp as I like all the sonic possibilities by using this modeling amp. I did my first gig last weekend with it and received good compliments on the sound. I just think if I could just turn the master volume to 10 I may pickup some of this great overdriven output tube sound. Thanks
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