Jun 30, 2009 4:24 PM
RMA status 11487
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So what do you all think of this:
I returned an acoustic 700 for warranty repair which has been in Line6 repair locally since MARCH. It is about to be JULY. It has been in the shop that entire time. Line 6 sent two unusable replacement circuit boards. I decided to ship it back to California where hopefully they could get this right.
Now they have had the item for a week, and I have not even heard back that they received the item.
RMA 11487, Fedex tracking 99011700461890, Serial # 21MAG125041202570. It was signed for by R Torres.
I'm wondering about the status of the repair -- and I find no way to email the company, only other users.... Open source community support, like this was free software.I'm going to 'mark it as a question' to alert technical support -- do you think that might help me recoup my expensive investment????
So here's my email to the community.
Line 6 sucks.
I have barely been able to use this instrument since I bought it. I am a professional player and it has quit in the middle of a performance twice. Since March, of course, its been useless. I might as well have thrown all that money in the street.
Line 6 should be ashamed of themselves for their inability to repair this item in a reasonable time period.
I am hoping that if I ever get to play this guitar again, I will feel good enough about Line6 to recommend them. Right now I would not recommend this company to my worst enemy.
You'd probably have a lot more luck giving them a call. You are right, though, I don't believe they have an email address, at least not a generic one. The phone number is (818) 575-3600. Of course, you'll need to wait until 11:00am EST to call them, since I don't believe their office opens until 8:00am PST.
Phi:
Thank you very much for your response. I have already been on the phone numerous time with them -- thats how I originally got an RMA number.You guessed correctly that I'm on the East coast, and was hoping to dash off an email to them this morning just to see if they had at least received the item. When I discovered they apparently do not publish an email address, but instead refer all questions to a public message board, I got even more frustrated.
I will be calling later today to see what happens, and will update this message so other users can hear what the resolution (if any) is.
Hopefully they will have sent me a working guitar already, but my confidence is pretty low at this point that anywhere at Line 6 cares too much about me and my useless expensive guitar.
--Frank
i can see your frustration on the email front, but there's a very good reason this is on an open forum... (if it needs to go private, then they open support tickets and RMA cases, etc)
if you were to email line6 support on a friday evening, 5 minutes after they went home, you wouldn't get an answer until monday morning at the earliest... even if your question is a simple one that anyone else with a little experience of a product could answer. so it's good that this is an open forum, as in a lot of cases, the questions people actually ask are easily fixed with a few words from another user.
obviously in your case you need line6 to jump in and help, but having your question on this forum wont have made it take longer to answer, etc.
I hope you get it all sorted.
Cheers
Rowbi
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frankimbur wrote:
So what do you all think of this:
I returned an acoustic 700 for warranty repair which has been in Line6 repair locally since MARCH. It is about to be JULY. It has been in the shop that entire time. Line 6 sent two unusable replacement circuit boards. I decided to ship it back to California where hopefully they could get this right.
Now they have had the item for a week, and I have not even heard back that they received the item.
RMA 11487, Fedex tracking 99011700461890, Serial # 21MAG125041202570. It was signed for by R Torres.
I'm wondering about the status of the repair -- and I find no way to email the company, only other users.... Open source community support, like this was free software.I'm going to 'mark it as a question' to alert technical support -- do you think that might help me recoup my expensive investment????
So here's my email to the community.
Line 6 sucks.
I have barely been able to use this instrument since I bought it. I am a professional player and it has quit in the middle of a performance twice. Since March, of course, its been useless. I might as well have thrown all that money in the street.
Line 6 should be ashamed of themselves for their inability to repair this item in a reasonable time period.
I am hoping that if I ever get to play this guitar again, I will feel good enough about Line6 to recommend them. Right now I would not recommend this company to my worst enemy.
Did you try calling 818-575-3600 and then press 3 for customer support during regular business hours to check on it? Did you leave a message?
Are you saying that no one has called you or called you back at all since the guitar has been back at Line 6?
Renken:
No one has called me back yet to let me know that the guitar can or will be fixed in the week since its been at Line 6. That's my current frustration.
I also included a note explaining how long the item has been in repair status, so you would think someone would have at least understood how frustrated I would have been, after having it in a repair facility since March.
Once again, I will call later in the day, and will update the forum once I hear what happens next.
Thank you for your response.
I just got off the phone with the line6 RMA department. They were able to confirm that they have the guitar, and it will be repaired, and that they will send it back to me.
They do not give any estimates on how long it may take. A week, two, maybe a month.
I explained it had already been in Line6 repair facilities since March. I was told that this is how long it takes -- that if I was not warned it was going to take at least a month, that they are very sorry that they may have forgot to warn me. No attempt to apologize, make it better, contact the service department to speed things up. Nothing.
But this is how long it takes. Sorry.
Apparently this is my fault for not assuming that I would have been without this equipment for MONTHS. By the time I get it back, I will only have a few months left in the warranty -- and I will only have been able to play the guitar for 6 months of the 12 months since I bought it (in September, 08).
So I repeat. This company sucks.
I can't see how I would buy anything from Line 6 again. I wish I had spent my money on anything else.
Does anyone at Line6 care? I'm disgusted.
I'm sorry you've had such a bad experiece. It's quite the opposite of the experiences with their customer service, actually. Everytime I've had to deal with it, it's gone very smoothly. Hopefully they get your guitar fixed sooner rather than later. They may simply not be allowed to give completion dates. I do feel for you, though.
Phil:
Thanks for the note, I'll keep you all posted as to what happens.I'm glad to hear that others, at least, have had better experience with Line 6 service. I have had lots of nice conversations too -- but nothing that has actually fixed the guitar, since March!
I am not happy that I will have not had the use of the guitar for 50% of its first year of ownership, the 12 month warranty period. Now I'm reading on this board about dead 'piezos' and I'm thinking that I'll be finally getting this thing back and it will be out of warranty, and with the luck I've had with this guitar, that will be the next to go wrong. I have always had problems playing the thing with a battery, and I see a dozen others with the same problem. This guitar was sweet -- in the showroom.
At this point there is no way I would gig with this guitar, I would have to bring a backup -- a real guitar that makes sounds reliably when one plucks the strings. I would never think about having to lug around a backup with any other guitar I've owned in over 30 years. I carry a spare set of *strings*, but not a spare *guitar*!!! And as I read through the message boards, I'm not the only one who has had the thing stop playing in the middle of a song while I was on stage. Who ever heard of such a thing??? And now they can not supply replacement parts, even given 6 months.
The reason Fender, Gibson, Martin and Ovation have become world standards is that they make products that are investments, that last for years. Line 6 has a long way to go, in my opinion, to be mentioned in the same breath as those brands. Yet, the prices are comparable. I've never owned any of Line 6 amps or effects units, but I am not about to purchase any, not at this rate. I could have bought the top of the line Ovation Adamas for this money. I have a feeling that if I had, I would be playing that guitar at every gig, and not having to worry about it, and it comes with a lifetime warranty, if I'm not mistaken. See - that's an investment. This, so far has been a waste of a terribly lot of money for me. Anyone else who had waited for six months on a warranty repair would feel the same, I think
Apparently the variax is not for people who *play* the guitar, its for people who *play with* guitars.
Again, I certainly understand your frustration. The Variax is a lot more complicated than traditional electric guitars, for sure, and there's certainly a lot more things that can go wrong. There are actual professionals that use them, though. The Edge played a Variax acoustic on the last U2 tour, and I've seen them other places as well. Any instrument can break, and I've had my share of gear breakdowns over the years. This board will always have the horror stories, well, because that's what it's here for.
I actually am not usually comfortable just taking one electric to a gig anymore just for the reason that you never know what will happen. I had my Strat short out ten minutes before I was supposed to play once. I had the preamp in my acoustic/electric die on stage. You never know when and if stuff will fail.
I'm not trying to minimize your problem, to be sure. I think anyone would be frustrated if they were in your shoes.
Your utter frustration is absolutely understood by me. There's no way to make up for such a horrible first year of non-useable ownership except to maybe give you an extended warranty...and a guitar that works flawlessly. I hope somehow your situation is made better.
Dan
you would certainly think the repairs at the least would be under a new warrantee for a year. even the local muffler shop does that ![]()
Danny from Line 6 did call me, later in the very day that I posted my frustrations here. He called to say the guitar was on the workbench, being repaired, and that he was asked to let me know. Danny also said he'd try and get the shipping upgraded so I could have my guitar back soon. He mentioned getting back to me with a status and tracking number, but I did not hear back from him after that.
We spent most of the time detailing the problem. This acoustic 700 forgets all its programming every time you put it down -- within a half hour or so. Bad EPROM I think. You have to soft-boot it (plug in & press in button on Sitar setting) every time you want to play it. This was a brand new circuit board supplied by Line 6 to my local repair shop. The circuit board Line 6 supplied before that had no modeled sounds at all, the dial did nothing. (Apparently they shipped a bunch like that, with no programming). Before that, the guitar had a loud background noise, like the ocean. Before that, the sound mysteriously cut out without warning in the middle of a song -- twice on stage.
Can you feel my pain, my brothers???
That was Monday (It's early Thursday), so hopefully I will have a working guitar again sometime soon.
I'll keep the board updated.
Amx: that's a good point about the local muffler shop! Im still hoping that once I get a working guitar I won't have any more problems with it for many years. Honestly, that seems a little farfetched right now -- but I can hope!
--Frank
Just wanted to report back.
Line 6 did finally get me a repaired guitar. It arrived on Friday and I was able to use it on gigs on Saturday and Sunday. It worked like a champ, and I truly did enjoy selecting different sampled instruments to spice up our set list.
I'm looking forward to years of using this as my main guitar! (fingers crossed)
-Frank
glad to hear you finally got it back. hope they didnt charge you the time you waited alone was more than enough. did they ever tell you what actually was the problem?
It was under warranty. I will say this, they never once questioned that this would be a free repair. I had kept the sales receipt and had registered the guitar here on the website the very day I bought it. It just took about 4 months all told, because of the problem circuit boards.
UPDATE A FEW MONTHS LATER.....
I just had to update this post. Line6 did return my guitar, repaired, within about two weeks (including coast to coast travel time).
Now that the guitar is working, I LOVE IT. I play it exclusively in a classic rock band (rythm guitar), as a solo singer/songwriter, and an acoustic duo. No troubles, just great fun and playability, and AWESOME sounds.
I have found the presets to be amazingly useful:
I also find the neck to be pleasing, and I can play for hours without the discomfort I find on my Martin. Stays in tune. It's an attractive, well made guitar. Nothing not to love.
Just wish it had a built in tuner. And rechargable batteries.
THANKS LINE 6!
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