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  • jirikrov Just Startin' 3 posts since
    Nov 26, 2008

    Hi all. Try “Monkey / Updates / Drivers / Reinstall latest” to reinstall all drivers from LINE6. I had  had that same troubles and this helped. Reply your experiences.

  • brainstem3000 Just Startin' 45 posts since
    Apr 26, 2007

    its amazing what line6 did  with the vetta .2 years of leading us on , telling us it would be fixed, and then they made the hard decision , not to fix it all. so anything can happen with the x3  .... ?

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  • maik211 Just Startin' 59 posts since
    Feb 15, 2007

    Perhaps the creative people are gone. In germany we have the "Arbeitsamt" for that kind of trouble. Line6 has to order a programmer to fix it.

     

    Hey Line6 - do we have to pay for this?

    Sometimes Line6 remains me to Microsoft...throwing something at the marked and let´s see if it works.

  • Zebop Just Startin' 4 posts since
    Jan 25, 2007

    Bump!

     

    Still the same problem here, no fix.

     

    I think this is rediculous. And I also think they hve "redone" the forums to ged rid of the old complaints too. You have to go trough quite some "layers" / links to get here finally.

     

    I decided not to invest (amplification system) any further in the X3 live because of this...It is gathering dust now in it's bag.

     

    Hugo

  • maik211 Just Startin' 59 posts since
    Feb 15, 2007

    yo Hugo seems you´re right.

    The X3L was the last thing I buy from Line 6!!!!!

  • MarkSSwanson Just Startin' 36 posts since
    Nov 16, 2007

    I think what bothers me the most about this is the potential lack of honesty.  If L6 came out and said "you know guys, there's only about 20 of you that are all worked up about USB audio dropout and it's just not worth our time to dedicate 23 L6 monkeys to fix it" I'd be OK with that.  Not happy, but OK.  At least I'd know that what I had was all I'd ever have.  I guess that's what happened with Vetta - but I don't know since I never owned one. But I think that when they say "we're on top of it, we're working on it" it just reeks of trying to keep people who want that USB recording and playback capability buying a new unit.  In that sense it could be dishonest if they're just saying that.  I hope that tomorrow L6Miller comes on and announces a solution and all of us pessimists - me for one - are once again exposed as cynics.

  • brentdg Just Startin' 33 posts since
    Aug 11, 2007

    To be honest I've given up and I don't care anymore. Its been almost 2 years and I'm tired of waiting. I won't buy another Line 6 product and then hope and wait for it to be fixed and 100% of what it should be... The X3L will be the only Line 6 product I ever own. I so glad I didn't buy a UX8 and a Variax right away.

  • MarkSSwanson Just Startin' 36 posts since
    Nov 16, 2007

    I hear you.  If L6 announces a new product I for one will wait for the initial problems and troubleshooting to take place before I plop down a chunk of change.  I like the X3L sounds but I would not have bought one if I had read posts like the ones here since my major use is recording guitar tracks via USB. If my major use was on stage then it might be different.

  • orangekeeper2 Just Startin' 76 posts since
    Feb 27, 2007

    +1 to Brent and Mark... I thought hard before getting the X3L as I knew the USB dropout would cause me problems with what I wanted to do. Stupidy I though L6 would fix it reasonably soon (I expected a wait of months, not years).

     

    [Get's on soap box]

    L6 will have to come up with something pretty special to make me purchase another of their products in future. Even then, I'll wait longer (Longer than the 4 months I waited before buying the X3L if I have to) and check the forums before I spend any cash.

     

    To be honest, I have lost all brand loyalty I had to L6.

    [steps off soap box]

  • Baggs Just Startin' 3 posts since
    Nov 17, 2007

    I think I accidently found a solution to the usb drop issue. I've always had a Behringer 8 channel mixer plugged into my line-in on my soundcard. This allows me to plug in 8 different devices at the front of my pc rather than have to plug chords into the back of the pc, plus, I get to plugin as much as 8 external sound devices.I have the Pod plugged into channel 8 on the mixer and when I record I use the line-in option which gives me perfect sound and I don't even have to plugin the usb chord.If you have a spare small mixer, you mant to give this a try?

    Baggs

  • LeonardoCastro Just Startin' 213 posts since
    Aug 4, 2008

    Bump!

    Still the same problem here, no fix.

    I think this is rediculous. And I also think they hve "redone" the forums to ged rid of the old complaints too. You have to go trough quite some "layers" / links to get here finally.

    I decided not to invest (amplification system) any further in the X3 live because of this...It is gathering dust now in it's bag.

    Hugo

     

     

    +1

  • LeonardoCastro Just Startin' 213 posts since
    Aug 4, 2008

    yo Hugo seems you´re right.

    The X3L was the last thing I buy from Line 6!!!!!

     

    +1

  • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User 11,829 posts since
    Dec 22, 2006

    you can't possibly do what the usb is capable of that way...  there aren't enough outputs

     

    tone one stereo (2 tracks)

    tone two stereo (2 tracks)

    dual tone blend (2 tracks)

    dual dry inputs (2 tracks)

     

    there is no way with an external input device you can record all 8 of these tracks

     

    not to mention you are using the obama economy philosophy... which involves throwing lots of money at lots of problems and hoping that things work out....

     

    around my house... things get tough... we do more with less... we don't do even more with even more!

  • ClassicalDad Just Startin' 194 posts since
    Nov 17, 2007

    -1   (minus 1)

     

    Please don't anybody call this a "solution to the usb drop issue".  Please don't anybody give Line6 the impression that you are OK with this workaround. If you read the Vetta announcement where, after 2 years of promising to fix the problems, they decided _not_ to fix them after all, they explicity said that various work-arounds existed for most or all of the problems. Bypassing the USB connection to the X3L is absolutely unacceptable.

     

    It's a poor desparate work-around at best, considering the issues and what you're giving up:

     

    - analog instead of digital, which if you have good equipment maybe you won't hear the difference.

    - you may have a crappy soundcard on your PC or laptop to begin with.

    - my laptop doesn't even have a line-in, but my Behringer mixer came with a very simple USB  interface with RCA in and outs.

    - you don't have the choice of any or all 8 of the wet and dry channels that USB recording gives you; you can only record two channels.

    - you don't have the zero-latency direct monitoring on the POD. Depending on your DAW and PC this may be a big problem. You can work around this by plugging the line-out of the PC into the mixer and monitoring from the mixer if you can split the in and out into a sub mix for the record out.

    - depending on your soundcard, you probably aren't using ASIO, which may or may not be a problem.

    - you cannot use GearBox to edit and transfer patches without changing wiring connections constantly.

    - you cannot use GearBox with Guitar Port Online tracks and lessons at all, period.

  • LeonardoCastro Just Startin' 213 posts since
    Aug 4, 2008

    +1 (plus one).

     

    I totally agree with ClassicalDad!

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