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Pykon Just Startin' 8 posts since
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Nov 21, 2009 1:11 PM

How to connect acoustic guitar with built-in piezo pickup and preamp to TonePort UX2

Hi,

 

I experience a problematic performance of my piezo-acoustic guitar with built-in active preamp/eq when trcording through instrument input on my TonePort UX2. The sound is thin, full of harmonics and subtle resonances, and I can hear more of a staccato than a melodic string sound. I/ve tried everything: changing the preamp's battery, checking out cables, changing strings, picks etc - all of them with no effect. Yesterday by chance I came up with an idea to plug the guitar into line input at the back of my UX2 and the guitar finally started to perform as it should! The difference is huge.

 

And here comes a question: how should such a guitar be connected to UX2? Should I use front Instrument normal input, or stick to back Line input?

 

And maybe the Instrument Input is corrupted and makes also my electric guitar and bass sound unnatural? Is there any way to check it out in terms of sound quality (No, I don't have any other guitar interface to compare with)?

 

More info:

 

- I record through Gearbox with ALL the amps/mics/cabinets/effects off

 

- I keep levels securely under peaks, no possibility of distortion

 

- Recording is done with the same software and settings in both cases (instrument normal/line in)

 

- I/ve also checked my piezo-acoustic guitar through Instrument pad input, as it has lower sensitivity. The sound was slightly better than the one recorded through normal instrument input but worse than line input option

 

the pickup/preamp/eq built into my acoustic guitar is signed by Shadow, should work well at least.

 

So, to put it another way:

 

- how should I connect acoustic guitar with piezo pick-up and active preamp to UX2;

 

- how can I know if the UX2 Instrument input doesn't lower also the quality of my electric guitar and bass sound?

 

Thx in advance for help,

 

Mike

  • ricksox UberGuru 11,600 posts since
    Mar 28, 2006

    Hello,

       

      It's possible that the output signal from your guitar is just too hot for the either instrument on the TonePort to handle. This makes sense considering the Line inputs work better as they are designed to receive a Line Level (+4db) input signal.

       

      If plugging your guitar into the Line Inputs work for you then you should keep using those inputs.

       

      Have oyu plugged any other straight magnetic pick up guitars into the front Instrument inputs of the TonePort? If so, how did they sound?

       

      Line6Miller

  • ricksox UberGuru 11,600 posts since
    Mar 28, 2006

    Hello,

       

      The only difference in the inputs that I am aware of is with being able to accept instrument vs. line level signals.

       

      I'll have a listen to your clips to get an idea of what you are hearing. I'm on holiday until Monday so I'll get back to you on this when I return. Thanks for your patience.

       

       

      Line6Miller

  • Line6Andy Line 6 4,345 posts since
    Jun 5, 2006

    Hello,

        Normally a guitar should be connected to the instrument input, but the built-in preamp may be pushing the output beyond what the instrument input can handle.  In this case you will want to use the Line in.

        General recording pricipals say that you should get the hottest signal you can (without clipping), so depending on how you set up you input these three tracks could be greatly affected in gain strucure alone.  impedance and output level can also change 'tone", so you need to keep this in mind when working on tracks.  The input meters in your recording SW may give you a better idea of what is happening, but the bottom line is "how it sounds". 

        You may want to try a different sound card to see if you get the same results.

       

      You can also see the following link for more information:

       

      http://line6.com/community/community/studio/recording_setup?view=documents

       

      Please let us know if you need further assistance, or close out the ticket as “answered” if your situation has been resolved.

  • Line6Andy Line 6 4,345 posts since
    Jun 5, 2006

    As we have already stated, normally an "instrument" level device should go into the "instrument" input, but the built-in preamp may be pushing the acoustic output beyond what the instrument input of the UX2 can handle.  It is really up to the end user to decide what "sounds best" as far as recording levels, warmth, and headroom/noise floor. 

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