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  • spaceatl Expert Line 6 User 4,456 posts since
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    46. Jan 14, 2010 11:42 AM (in response to captainbob)
    Re: Lack of support for Linux

    Technically, Windows (NT trunk) is a pre-emptive multi-tasking OS...So is Unix, Linux and OSX...Just like women, when you turn them upside down, they all look like sisters...

     

    If Linux went mainstream, users would be logging in with root access and messing up thier machines just like they have in windows...And then Linux would get all these services to prevent user stupidity...All while the script kiddies start attacking it and you end up with the same thing...

     

    I agree with you...Linux is a tool like anything else...These days I like to open the box, plug it in and go...I don't have time for Linux and it doesn't support my hardware that I know of...

  • mikey1 Just Startin' 524 posts since
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    47. Jan 14, 2010 11:49 AM (in response to captainbob)
    Re: Lack of support for Linux

    Off topic but.....

     

    I miss the old days. You needed four guys for mixdown. Huge patchbays. Reverb rooms. Material actually rehearsed. Editing, shmediting. Drugs. Those were the days. Ok, maybe not the drugs....

     

    My least favorite aspect of digital recording is the editing capability. It's pretty common for me to let an artist wig out for three tracks and then edit that into a cohesive performance. I loved it at first until it became the norm. What we've gained in spontaneity we've lost in structure. There is so much you can do in post that people don't even try anymore. I never get credit for it. I get listed as producer but nobody ever says I sewed the solo together.

     

    And pitch correction. It's a skill. A hard skill. Of course, I never get any credit for that. In fact, it's the best kept secret there is.

     

    Glad I got that off my chest. Sorry.

  • mikey1 Just Startin' 524 posts since
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    51. Jan 14, 2010 2:09 PM (in response to captainbob)
    Re: Lack of support for Linux

    I should point out that JBT (John Blistertip) helped me with my motherboard and component choices. The industry is assuredly predisposed to gamers. Building a computer is a minefield. I'm happy enough with mine to duplicate it should disaster strike.

  • fblamauer Just Startin' 15 posts since
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    52. Jan 14, 2010 2:49 PM (in response to pbear5)
    Re: Lack of support for Linux

    pbear,

     

    Searching for updates? Ubuntu gets them and installs them automatically and effectively. All the basics just work, like on a Mac. Installation is a breeze compared to MShaft only a few mouse clicks and entering some basic information, that's it. I have yet to have any issues with Ubuntu and unknown devices, with the exception of wireless cards, they do take a bit of effort. I find that installing windows is a major pain, having to install RAID or SATA drivers before the installation of the OS even starts, service packs that have to be installed in sequence and then loading drivers....I hate it and it's a wast of very valuable time!

     

    Now Mac's are really nice but they do come at a price. Being so used to linux, I don't appreciate the proprietary nature of Mac's but they are a great platform for anyone who needs an easy to use and dependable platform for whatever it is they do. I actually coughed up the big bucks to buy my daughter a MacBookPro for university. I just didn't want to get that panic call when something went wrong with the MShaft machine and a paper or assignment is due. Plus, OS X is unix so I'm good with that.

  • Karl_Houseknecht Expert Line 6 User 3,732 posts since
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    53. Jan 14, 2010 2:53 PM (in response to fblamauer)
    Re: Lack of support for Linux

    fblamauer wrote:

    I find that installing windows is a major pain, having to install RAID or SATA drivers before the installation of the OS even starts, service packs that have to be installed in sequence and then loading drivers....I hate it and it's a wast of very valuable time!

     

    Interesting.  I have SATA hard disks and optical drives.  Didn't have to do a thing to install XP other than put the CD in the drive and boot away.  No hard questions to answer.  Service packs, updates, etc, all install automatically just like they do on Ubuntu.  Granted, updates to apps are an inividual thing and not from a single source, but most if not all are self updating too.

  • fblamauer Just Startin' 15 posts since
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    54. Jan 14, 2010 3:15 PM (in response to Karl_Houseknecht)
    Re: Lack of support for Linux

    You sure they are SATA, Serial ATA as compared to PATA, Parallel ATA? For SATA drives you have always had to hit F6 and preload the SATA controller driver, same with SCSI drives. That's the way it is unless they have made a recent change that I don't know about. Most windows drivers require SPK2 as a pre-req so if the installer doesn't recognize your network card then you're kind of screwed. Exception being if you are using a pre-built customized install CD with the SPK already encorporated or it's a custom CD for specific hardware like a Dell or HP machine.

  • Karl_Houseknecht Expert Line 6 User 3,732 posts since
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    55. Jan 14, 2010 3:15 PM (in response to fblamauer)
    Re: Lack of support for Linux

    Yes, they are SATA.  And my install CD of XP Home came with SP2 already bundled.  Of course, I'm on SP3 right now.  Didn't need to press F6 while installing.

     

    Although my wife's machine (my old one) is equipped with XP Pro.  And the install CD I  have for that didn't include any service pack.  No fear.  It detected the network card and everything else, no problem.  That one just has regular ATA drives, though.

  • Karl_Houseknecht Expert Line 6 User 3,732 posts since
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    58. Jan 14, 2010 4:31 PM (in response to captainbob)
    Re: Lack of support for Linux

    captainbob wrote:

     

    Wow... Windows did it all for you...  How nice.

     

    Shouldn't it?

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