...STILL no "Smart Harmony" intelligent pitch shifter?!

*facepalm*   

just that would have been better than 12 new things nobody wants... I doubt I (and alot of others) will even bother with the 'update'.

BIG-time misstep Line 6

The X3 was THE #1 amp modeling processor when it came out - which is why I bought it, and believe me, I research the living crap out of stuff before plunking down my cash money - but it has quickly slid into 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th place if we take the Axe-FX into consideration(which I normally wouldn't considering the dramatic price point difference).  In my mind, the primary competitors to the X3 are the GT-10 and the GSP1101/RP1000, and quite frankly, their effects stomp all over the X3... and the GSP1101 just might give it a run on amp modeling too.

This 'update'(your term, not mine) is telling me that the X3's cycle is basically over-with...  Line 6 - in the NEXT POD, whatever it will be called, you need to knock it out of the park. You're not the only dog in the fight anymore.

***by the way, I've owned & championed the X3 since the week it was released, when there was NO software for it at all, so don't assume I'm a n00b, a whiner, or a Line 6 basher.  If you think so, you are sadly mistaken.

okay - I did the 'update'.

I found nothing of interest - and it whacked out my original tones.

...then I rolled it back to its previous state with Monkey.  My tones were back.

I'll play my X3 - AS IS - until it dies.

*bows out*

Last night when I updated (and updated Gearbox in the process), everything sounded peachy. Today, after playing for about an hour and a half, Gearbox went all haywire, giving me error codes about not receiving MIDI data when I changed presets and the sound of one of the presets just went silent. Turned off the X3 Pro and Gear Box, turned both on again and the error codes (didn't put down what they were, sorry, but if they come back I will) were gone - for now - but that preset, which doesn't use any of the new effects, because it was made weeks ago and worked fine all this time - still puts out the sound of silence, unless I put another preset in Tone 2. But even then, when I try to select the preset again from the preset list in the browser, it doesn't make any sound upon being selected again, regardless of whether it's selected in Tone 1 or Tone 2. Any suggestions on how to solve this, other than a rollback? I like several of the new effects (not all of them have merit, but that vibrato is something I've been waiting for ever since I swopped my old Roland GP-100 with its killer vibrato effect for the XT Pro), so I'm not too keen on rolling back if it can be avoided.

so, any good reason for not including a basic pitch shifter? I'm not even asking for a whammy...

EDIT: ps: I just realised it's my first post here. Nice start

Haven't downloaded the new effects yet, but wanted to chime in anyways. The list of things I wish my X3-live had is endless and some of effects sound pretty mediocre to my ears. I only use a few of the amp models and some of the effects. I sold my XT a few weeks after I bought it used and bought a brand new X3 simply because I had to have the effects loop. I was using a variax with the cat cable so I couldn't put any stomp boxes (and a own quite a few and want more) before the XT, and putting stomp boxes between the XT and the amp wasn't enough for me. When I'm doing my space music, i've got a boss ME 50, a Digitech GNX 1, and a boss MT-2 pedal in the effects loop, and a DL-4 after the X3 (mostly for the looper). So if I only like one of the new models, I'll be happy for the freebie.

To sum up, I certainly could gripe about the crappy aspects of the X3, but I got way more than the purchase price worth of value out of it, so I'm satisfied. To get some more free stuff from Line 6 adds to that satisfaction.

Wow. So I have an X3 Pro coming tomorrow and thought I'd come visit the forum. Lots of whiners on here, no?

I think the firmware update looks great. Can't wait to give it a shot! FWIW, I realize this isn't a $10,000 amp/effect emulator that doesn't toast bread or do my taxes. But it'll be FUN!! I'm excited to play with it.

Guys, stop whining and go play your guitars and have fun!