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  • timowens Gear Head 1,230 posts since
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    165. Nov 24, 2010 4:48 PM (in response to beteasta351)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    beteasta351 wrote:

     

    Hate to butt-in ...

     

    LOL, look at the picture in the thread you are replying to and look at your opening words, that is too funny

  • beteasta351 Just Startin' 116 posts since
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    166. Nov 24, 2010 5:56 PM (in response to timowens)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    DUDE LMAO. That is so hysterical, you freak'n owe me a new set of strings not even joking. I read that, was drinking water, and realized what you meant, dude the water got all over my strings (obviously fretboard) and now they're gonna rust. =) YOU MEANIE. Lol, anyways that is just hilarious i just realized what you meant oh god.

    HAHAHAHA

    ~Matt

  • bbenham Just Startin' 271 posts since
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    167. Nov 24, 2010 6:38 PM (in response to timowens)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    Glad they didn't lock the thread.  That made the whole thread worthwhile. 

  • toneman2121 Gear Head 1,985 posts since
    Oct 15, 2006
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    168. Nov 24, 2010 9:21 PM (in response to Karl_Houseknecht)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    yo far, you seem to know what you think your talking about, you think. most of these guys are voicing there opinions with years of experience behind them. it would do you good to listen and not be so hardwired into your own. i don't know what your trying to convey but it sounds like you got some kinda bug up your butt for the hd. you don't like it, fine. you think it's junk, fine. the axe is better, fine. your not gonna convince me to buy an axe when for 329 usd i can get close to the axe in the 300...and yes i left off the hd. i've been playing for a long time and i'm not too shabby. i will say i need to be more consistent in my playing. i can't read music. i don't know as much as i would like. my chord knowledge is slight. most of the things i learn i stumble upon. i don't play in a band. i don't gig. i don't know anything about recording. i don't have a desire to be a rock star. i don't like to play other artist music. i like to make my own and improvise.  but i do know what i like. and i know what sounds good. my old trusty xt does. and if these guys are saying the hd series tops the xt and x3 i'm gonna take there word for it and get one as soon as i can afford it.  so anyway with all of your skill and knowledge, why don't you post a clip and shut these guys up. i'll be the first to evaluate it. by the way, when you first started posting you were making some sense in what you were saying. but when people were showing disagreement, you took it to heart and became defensive and harsh and some of your thoughts became convoluted and rambling, and your attitude became threatening. sorry to be so honest. you gotta tone it down a bit.

  • toneman2121 Gear Head 1,985 posts since
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    170. Nov 25, 2010 10:58 AM (in response to Karl_Houseknecht)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    the man must have something to lay down some tracks. i would just like to hear him play. maybe his playing isn't worth the axe fx

  • Dime13 Just Startin' 162 posts since
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    171. Nov 25, 2010 5:35 PM (in response to bbenham)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    bbenham wrote:

     

    From Wikipedia:

     

    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

     

     

    Sounds like he just called it as he sees it to me.

     

    Oh really?  Care to demonstrate your claim of any of that occuring?  You fail to show where i posted anything inflammatory.  And care to prove that such was my intent?  I din't think so.  I was just defending against unjustified claims.

     

    You also fail to show where I posted anything extraneous, all I did was reply to reasoning that was sub-par with regards to the stated quality of a setup - especially with regards to the objective fidelity of a signal....   And then buddy there starts is the first to start making extraenous and wholly untrue claims as to certain live setups.

     

    Nor did you show where I had any intent, never mind primary intent, of any desired incitation to an emotional emotional resoponse.

     

    Therefore your troll claims are unfounded.

     

    (yawn)... more unsupported claims.

     


     

    Karl originally did this thread to say why he switched and to post a few sound clips of what he was able to do.  He did this for a community of users here in the Line 6 boards.

     

    And I'm telling you the reason for switching was either invalid, or an error in judgment.  I showed reasoning why, and in a very civil way, and then we have people responding like a bunch of wild animals and then calling me a troll and hurling insults.. WTF is that all about?

     

    You are entitled to you're opinions and feel free to voice them.  But please don't try to hide behind forum etiquette BS.  You've gone well beyond off topic of why he chose to switch and gone full on to harassing him for switching.  Proper etiquette would be for you to get your own thread and see if you have anyone that responds, not hijack an existing thread for you're own purpose.  This makes you a troll.

     


    Nothing I have said is irrelevant so you are wrong again.   And he switched so please do not lie about what happened here... others including Karl switched it up and I responded with reasoning to where they have led me astray for no good reason - and now you mis represent me by saying I am the one who sent it off topic... nice going buddy!

     

    But I would sincerely advise you to not distort my position with this nasty dirty tactic of yours and be advised that you are not to behave like this again or you will be reported to the admins.

     

    Therefore others can be considered trolls here with a capital T including yourself... actually something even worse.... because as you see, there are others who have agreed with me that this Pod HD is misleading  - and I have shown why the title of it is also misleading.  And sorry to burst your bubble chief - but my main point that the unit does not sound HD and that the HD in the description is genuinely flase.

     

    "HD500 made me sell my Axe FX.".. hm... i don't know...  That sounds like a person saying "Dodge Neon" made me sell my Space Shuttle.

     

    This is a total waste of time.  Enjoy your HD.  Mine is going straight into the dumpster.

  • spaceatl Expert Line 6 User 4,456 posts since
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    173. Nov 25, 2010 5:39 PM (in response to Dime13)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    reminder to self...turn email off on this thread...it's far beyond annoying now. :-(

  • bbenham Just Startin' 271 posts since
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    174. Nov 25, 2010 7:14 PM (in response to Dime13)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    FarBeyond3 wrote:

     

     

    But I would sincerely advise you to not distort my position with this nasty dirty tactic of yours and be advised that you are not to behave like this again or you will be reported to the admins.

     

    I'd be willing to let the Admins make the decision on that if you feel you need to make the call.  If we get lucky they just lock the thread and you can start one of your own which will probably receive no responses.

     

    Btw...   many people would consider the following inflammatory.  I get the fact you don't.  But I'm puzzled you think troll is worse.

     

     

    FarBeyond3 wrote:

     

    Wow i think you are the one looking quite a bit more pathetic if you are going to be that big of an over sensitive p%ssy to this.

     

     

     

    FarBeyond3 wrote:

     

    Ok i would like to see you come say that to my face.  Lets see you try, in person...

     

     

    This falls under provoking an emotional response in the definition I quoted.  Since you wanted examples.  If you need more I'll just scroll up.

  • spaceatl Expert Line 6 User 4,456 posts since
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    175. Nov 25, 2010 7:04 PM (in response to Karl_Houseknecht)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    so much for the joke...I liked the thread...but this a$$hole reminds of the reason that I never listened to Rush or Floyd early on...my first exposure to Rush and Floyd were zealots that thought there was nothing better and any alternative was sacrilege. far beyond, it's a$$holes like you that take the fun out of this biz...and these threads...thanks for being far beyond an a$$hole... toodles.. :-)

  • wardick Just Startin' 378 posts since
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    176. Nov 25, 2010 8:05 PM (in response to Karl_Houseknecht)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    Karl_Houseknecht wrote:

     

    We had a guy on this board from Texas a while back that STILL doesn't own an Axe-Fx after all these years, but for the longest time trashed everything about Line6 and extolled the virtues of the Axe. 

     

    Well it tiz the season to be jolly!

  • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
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    178. Nov 25, 2010 8:18 PM (in response to Dime13)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    FarBeyond3...... buddy......... are you still here? Why?

     

    Go Away! ****! Shoo!!! Begone!

     

    Let me say it out loud in case you aren't hearing....... NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK!!! (except you of course - so go start your own thread and post all the inanities to yourself that you want......)

  • Dime13 Just Startin' 162 posts since
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    179. Nov 25, 2010 9:14 PM (in response to Karl_Houseknecht)
    Re: HD500 Made me sell my Axe-Fx (clip)

    Karl_Houseknecht wrote:



    To know WTF that is all about, you need look no further than the first sentence above.  You're saying I switched from an Axe-Fx to all-tube rigs was an invalid choice or an error in judgement?  Again, you don't even own an Axe-Fx.  I did.  I made the choice that was best for ME and MY needs.  And you can be the judge of what's best for my situation...how?



    Incorrect.  That was not the original purpose of your post and all your responses on the first page of this. 


    On page one you posted clips and your thread title could have clearly been something different if those clips were all you were trying to post as a sample of the HD.


    But then later on in your responses, before you mentioned anything about tube amps, you wrote:


    "Well, the truth is that I'm finally getting to know this unit well enough that I'm getting tones that are every bit as good as what I was getting on the Axe."


    And I decided to challenge those assertions which I have all the reason to believe were false and absolutely impossible claims now that I have tried both units.  You have not refuted this challenge.


    You're saying I switched from an Axe-Fx to all-tube rigs was an invalid choice or an error in judgement?  Again, you don't even own an Axe-Fx.  I did.  I made the choice that was best for ME and MY needs.  And you can be the judge of what's best for my situation...how?


    It does not take a test driver of a lamborghini revelon to own the actual machine to know that the machine is that much better than the chevy camaro.  As far as the axe, the unit is underpriced and industry standards dictate that the machine is worth far more - at least 8 grand, but that this actual value is a profit  that the owner of Fractal chooses not to make off his customers.


    And I would not comment on what is best for your situation, for all i know you might be most happy with a Boss GT8.  But i have shown how it is impossible that the HD "gives the Axe a run for its money" as you have also stated.   This is nothing but a marketing statement for L6.


    There are plenty of pros out there that use the Axe-Fx.  Most of the big names on the web site use it as an effects rig (Petrucci) or probably don't use it at all (Vai). 

    Actually it is well known that Steve Vai uses it for live shows now.  So does Messugah - as the both players know that no engineer in a live venue can make miked up cabs sound as good as the basically pre-mastered sound coming as basic straight out from the axe.


     

    MOST pros don't use the Axe and actually use (gasp!) REAL AMPS.  Go tell those folks that they made errors in judgement and see how far you get with them.


    I how can i tell them they made an error in judgment if they never had an axe that they sold in the first place?   And if they did, I would no need to tell them, as there would already be other people who know what they are doing in audio notifying such individuals or anyone who sold it in favor of an HD500 to lay off the crack - individuals who are likely more just pure musicians and not true audio people when it comes down to it.  

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