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those patch files don't seem to work properly here...
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Jasonbrianmerrill wrote:
those patch files don't seem to work properly here...
In what way? Are you getting an error or something? What are you seeing?
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I will take this argument one step farther. I think if you use a tube power amp.....the differences in terms od real amp realism gets even closer. I can use my POD X3 through a tube power amp and get amazing tones! It is hard for me to want an HD500 after getting such great X3 tones through a tube amp.
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So Karl.........have you found it best to gig out with tube amps as compared to the Pod HD?
You mentioned at a show a sound guy mentioned the real tube amp sounding way better. On the flip side a friend of mine gigged with a Line 6 HD head years ago and was told by the sound guy that the HD sounded better at the gig than his Diezel VH4.....for small clubs, etc.
Had you compared to the Eleven Rack - there is a youtube clip comparing the Eleven to a Mesa Roadster and the 11 sounded every bit as good.
I aks because I am on the fence. I have a 20th Anniversary EL34 Bogner Shiva and soon a Mesa Boogie Electradyne after I sell my VHT ST/50.
For my current cover band/original band I was considering a modelling rig. I was thinking of the DT-50 and HD500 for a great solution but it looks like the HD is unable to change channels on the DT so it might make more sense for me to use an HD-500 into a tube power amp...
I wish the DT and HD were a little better integrated...
My goal is to have a small modelling rig consisting of the HD500 and Mesa Boogie 50/50 tube power amp and Mesa Rectifier 212 cabinet with Classic lead 80 and Vintage 30.
If you have found good old tube amps to be best...I might stick to my tube heads and pedals. I just hate all the pedal dancing! Wish I could find a way to avoid the pedal dance.

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Hey thanks for the clips they sounded really good, on the web
They lost a bit of the effect coming out of my dt50 2x12 due to the mono amp though. Will
try them tomorrow through the PA. I noticed the clips were or were close to being maxed out volume wise.
Can someone share mixing tips for going to an amp like or for the dt50. I am having a hard
time with should the volume be up way high and master low or which, I can't have both high
that would blow the roof off my two story house. And obviously maxing out volume on each
patch would give you completely unleveled patches for live playing.
Or are we saying max out volume on the patch for recording only. I have seen people subscribing
to both philosophies.
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I'm late to this thread, very late.
Excellent tones, Karl.
You're indeed a brave man to take on the Axe-FX FBI investigating special forces detective team that controls the internet.
Well done.

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Lance wrote:
You're indeed a brave man to take on the Axe-FX FBI investigating special forces detective team that controls the internet.
LOL! Fractal's black helicopters are most assuredly hovering over my location as we speak.

I must say this one more time for the record, the title of this thread was meant as a joke. The joke being a reference to a thread over in the Lounge entitled "Fractal Audio Axe-Fx Made Me Sell My X3". The point of the thread was just to post some cool (at the time) patches from the 500 with a provacative title that was sure to draw attention. I think I went a little too far in that regard.
The HD500 didn't, by itself, make me sell my Axe-Fx. Truth be told the major influence came from a Marshall TSL100 and a Boss GT-10. A guitar buddy of mine, after hearing both the Axe and Marshall rigs, told me that under no circumstances was I to bring the Axe rig back to the band, that the real amp and cab sounded far better than the Axe and FRFR solution. Then I got a Fryette Sig:X which took that to a whole other level.
Still, the HD500 is an amazing piece of gear for the money, and when I saw and heard where it was going, it became an important factor in the sale of the Axe. If I could fulfill my modeling needs with the 500, lighten my rig by a hundred pounds or more, and put about $4500 back in my music budget, it seemed a wise decision. I don't miss the Axe at all, and I have to be honest that I'm far happier with my tone on all fronts. The HD is going to start playing a more central role in my rigs in the near future.
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Hey Karl
We tested a bunch of Marshalls in a store the other day...we were testing different Tokai LP models and used the Marshalls because this store are the Marshall distributors and had them all on display in the amp room.
The JVMs were awesome (but very noisy), the 1923 85th Anniversary was great, but nothing was better than the TSL100 clean channel, it's exceptionally/surprisingly good.
I know what your band mates are talking about, they've got good ears, no HD500 or Axe-FX through a dozen QSC K12s will sound the same...maybe good, but not the same.

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Lance wrote:
nothing was better than the TSL100 clean channel, it's exceptionally/surprisingly good.I tell you, that's the most underrated clean channel on any amp. I never hear anyone talking about it, but it is just awesome. Takes pedals so well. I won't sell it. I like the crunch channel on that amp too. Very, very good. The lead channel takes some tweaking, but it can handle okay.
But I'm just really, really impressed with my Sig:X on EVERY channel, though. And that's even after the honeymoon period. It's the best sounding overall tube amp that I've played. With the boost feature it's like having a 6 channel amp. No pedals needed. Well, except for maybe some noise reduction on very high gain. But that's expected.
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Would I not be correct in pointing out that a fair comparison between the HD500 and a live amp in a room, would be listening to a MICed amp in a room. I compare it to the visual world when I pursue my other hobby (photography) and how you have to visualize how the world of 3D will translate to film (or sensor) as you take a picture.
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Would I not be correct in pointing out that a fair comparison between the HD500 and a live amp in a room, would be listening to a MICed amp in a room.
Yes, that is correct.
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I think EL34 clean tones don't get enough credit. Everyone seems to just jump on the Fender 6L6 spanky clean tone as being the measuring stick. On the Boogie forums, guys like me that swap out the 6L's for 34's in their Mark V's are told we are taking a hit on the clean channel. I say "what hit" I love the clean sound of 34's. Maybe I prefer a smoother clean and don't want that exaggerated top end. I loved the clean on my old Hi-watt 50 head, the marshall JCM combo, I love the clean on the mesa stiletto's and I love the clean on my EL34 loaded Mark 5. So I could definitely see where you would love the clean on the TSL100. Here's to giving EL 34 clean tones their dues. I don't mind EL84 cleans for that matter either.
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Karl_Houseknecht wrote:
beanbag wrote:
Would I not be correct in pointing out that a fair comparison between the HD500 and a live amp in a room, would be listening to a MICed amp in a room.
Yes, that is correct.
Thanks Karl.
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