Oct 27, 2010 4:46 PM
POD HD500 causes PC blue screen (stop-error)-crash
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Hi,
I git my POD HD500 today and after downloadind the edit software (and the drivers along with it) I connected my HD500 to my PC (WinXP) and it started installing the device.
In the middle of the installation my PC crashed with a blues screen and rebooted.
After rebooting I installed the HD500 again and it went fine and I got the message that it is installed. But a few minutes after installation my PC crashed with a blues screen again without me even doing anything, nor anything running with the POD HD500.
Is this a bug? What is the cause of this?
Upon rebooting I got a MS knowledge abse message saying it was a device driver that caused the blue screen, so is there something wrong with the HD500 driver?
Thanks,
Lars
Hi,
I had issues with this due to a conflict with my Logitech Webcam device driver. Really annoying. According to Nick, the problem is the Logitech driver, not the Line 6 driver. So, if you have a Logitech, disable the driver and see if that helps.
David.
Thank you for your help.
I don't have a Logitech webcam, so it must be something else. I don't know.
Sounds like a driver conflict though. I'd disable any drivers ypu don't need and see if the problem goes away, then turn on one at a time until the problem returns.
Thanks again.
Yes, it is some kind of driver issue. But even if disabling other drivers helps, this is not a solution, I can't keep diabling drivers every time I connect my POD HD500, and I never had driver problems (blue screens) with any other device than either of my Line6 products (I also have a POD Studio UX2 which had the same problem a few times).
Perhaps not, but it'll help you work out what driver it is conflicting with and that may help point to a solution.
Yes, that's true.
But I still don't think it's another devices' driver causing this, it's the Line6 driver, like I said, I never had something like this with any other driver thant Line6 drivers.
Well, I tend to agree I must admit. I've only had this with the Line 6 driver, and it was with my X3L. However, I don't know what your chances are of getting them to fix it as not many people seem to be affected so in the meantime I'd at least try to isolate what it's conflicting with to see if there's any way around it because I completely agree with you, it's really annoying.
Thanks.
Well, with my UX2 it happened a few times, and, yes it is indeed annoying when it happens. I hope this will be fixed in a driver update at soem point, though.
Hi
Any BSOD issue is really annoying. I don't think apart from David (Ozbadman) I've seen any other reports of plugging/unplugging an HD500 causing a BSOD on this forum yet. With David's system he identified a conflict with his Web cam driver, but knowing what it is, he is able to control the situation with some workarounds.
Given that, so far, the problem seems to be quite rare, I would deduce that the POD HD500 driver is pretty stable, so the likelihood of the problem being the HD500 driver itself is lessened. I work in IT and can tell you that the causes of BSOD behaviour are widely varied and often hard to pin down, but some of the causes I see coming up time and time again are:
Dodgy memory modules
Overclocked systems that are simply not stable
Non WHQL certified graphics drivers
Unsigned third party hardware drivers
Device conflict
PC power supply of poor quality and under performing by under-delivering voltage and/or current
Anti-malware software
Background non-essential applications
Overheating system
BIOS requires update
Can you provide some specifications on your PC please? Is it a self built system, or one made by one of the big manufacturers (HP, Dell etc...). What CPU does it use; how much RAM does it have (make); if self build, what motherboard did you use; what operating system; what other devices are attached; etc... ??
I don't think the problem is the HD500 driver FWIW. I do think the problem is specific to your system. You may find some clues if you view your computer's system logs and if you are able to interpret them. The huge variety and inter-compatibility of devices that are available for PCs is a large part of this type of problem, because not all compatible devices are as compatible as they could be, and there is no overall control of who can make what for the PC and claim compatibility, whereas with Apple there is tight control and that's why these sorts of issues are less in evidence with an Apple machine in general.
Good luck
Regards
Nick
Hi Nick,
Thank you very much for your answer.
I'm not very knowledgeable about PCS, but I will try to answer your questions.
My PC is a self built system.
CPU: i7 920 @ 2.67 GHz
2.99 GB RAM
the motherboard is an Aus P6T deluxe
OS is WinXP pro 32 bit
Other attached devices: keyboard and mouse via USB, Creative webcam (also via usb, but this one was off during all of the problems) and my Line6 POD Studio UX2, which is also connected via USB.
I don't know how to read the system log. But if you want I can post if.
Thanks,
Lars
Hello Lars,
Do you happen to have any software that might be include virtual MIDI cables?
Here's an FAQ that may help. We recently discovered some conflicts with these types of softwares.
http://line6.com/community/docs/DOC-2101
Let me know either way. If this doesn't apply to you then we can create a support ticket for you and gather the appropriate crash logs etc. Thanks.
Line6Miller
Thank you for your reply.
No, I don't have any software that includes virtual MIDI cables.
I checked the lnk you provided, but noe of the information is applicable to my case.
I'd appreciate it very much if you could create a support ticket for me.
Thanks,
Lars
Hi
That system spec looks the business. Asus motherboard and Intel i7 should be OK. Memory make - would be useful, I know that Cubase is very good at pinpointing dodgy RAM modules and causing BSOD issues - it always has been. I learned a long time ago to make sure I bought decent and branded memory if building a DAW - Crucial or Corsair are my main favourite choices. I also learned that a good quality power supply is essential rather than going for one based on how inexpensive it is.
Now, you mention a Creative Web cam but that it wasn't connected. Hmmm - I once had a Logitech Webcam on my old Acer Travelmate 8104WLMi Win XP Pro SP3 and although not directly related to the HD500 it is related to my Line 6 FBV Shortboard MkII - when I first had my new FBV Shortboard MkII last year it just would not install at all on this particular laptop, and although I hadn't actually used the Web cam or had it connected since about 2007, the Web cam's drivers were still installed on the computer and they were responsible for the FBV not being recognised. My point here is that the device may not have to be connected to the computer to cause problems with your HD500 - and I'm not pointing my finger at your Web cam here necessarily.
Nick
Thanks for your reply, Nick.
Yes, I agree, a good RAM make is important and I did take that into consideration when I built my PC and got Corsair RAM sticks.
Same goes for my PCs power supply, I got Corsair here as well, and it's got more Wattage than my system really needs (850W).
I am not very knowledgeable about PCs and Pc parts, but before I built my PC I hung out on a PC forum and got lots of information on which parts would be of good uqality and which would not. I really made sure I got high quality parts for my build.
Today I have not had any blue screen crashes so far, and the HD500 does work when connected to my PC, but those blue screens from yesterday (two occurances) still do bother me. Especially since I remember having had blue screens from my POD Studio UX2 some time ago as well when installing the drivers for the device.
And since I never had gotten blue screen crashes from any other device's driver other than these two (both Line6 products), I find it hard to believe it's something else than the Line6 drivers that causes the blue screen.
Also, when installing these drivers (both UX2 driver and HD500 driver), Windows notified me during installation that these drivers have NOT passed the XP compatibility test. Wouldn't that maybe indicate that there might be something wrong with these drivers?
I still hope you guys can create a support ticket for me. I would really appreciate that.
Thanks,
Lars
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