Currently Being ModeratedNov 12, 2010 10:02 AM (in response to hoodcreeper)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
My first suggestion would be to plug the HD500 into something else as a test. If it sounds good through the headphones, it should at least get close through something else. Just to make sure the issue isn't being introduced by protools, try plugging the HD500 1/4" or XLR into a normal amp, or stereo, or whatever you can find. This will prove the problem is on the HD500 side, and we (that is, you with the help from people on this board) can go from there.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 12, 2010 10:31 AM (in response to hoodcreeper)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
Thanks David- I have gone direct into my computer through the usb connection and recorded into Garageband. Sound quality is better and volumes seem closer but still a little on the empty tone side. I also have plugged into a fender blues junior and set pedal output to combo amp settings. I was actually fairly pleased on how this sounded compared with the older x3L. In my friends pro tools "setup" I am just at a loss as similar settings that sounded good in other two scenarios now sound like crap. Also everyone elses direct tones (keys, bass, and mic'd drums) sound great. I don't think the problem is with pro tools. Does my friends pc (protools) soundcard come into play at all. Do I need to install HD 500 driver or edit into friends computer? Can I run my pedal usb into my computer first then out of my computer into a Line 6 UX1 and then into his mbox?
I also have seen some discussions on HD's not handling humbucker pickups that well. They talk about the excessive signal and breakup, but not about low volume direct out signals. There has to be a simple answer. This pedal has to record better than this. If not then this thing is on a fast track back to GC while I still have some time to return.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 12, 2010 11:01 AM (in response to hoodcreeper)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
I have high powered humbuckers and only experienced the break up on the factory defaults. If you create your own patches or get some from the customtone website http://line6.com/customtone/ I think you will have a better experience with your unit. Theres almost 300 patches ready for download. Here is my setup and it sounds great:
PRS Tremonti SE
Dimarzio Super Distortion bridge
Dimarzio LiquiFire neck
Dimarzio Super Distortion bridge
Dimarzio PAF Pro neck.
Beheringer EuroPower EP1500
4 X 12 B-52
Kustom KPC12MP 12" Powered Floor Monitor
Currently Being ModeratedNov 12, 2010 11:23 AM (in response to FrozenOzone)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
Hey Frozen- do you put your power amp in line before any direct recording. Or is the power amp primarily for your link to cabnets?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 12, 2010 11:53 AM (in response to hoodcreeper)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
No the power amp is just power for my cabs.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 5, 2011 1:20 AM (in response to FrozenOzone)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
so... what finally was the conclusion?
Currently Being ModeratedMar 5, 2011 8:43 AM (in response to songwaters)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
I can only speak for myself- but I eliminated going direct into Mbox. Nothing seemed to work. Spdif, xlr's, and I even pulled a stereo splitter out of the phones. In the end we ended up going into a mixing board and into someone elses mbox into a mac. Whatever the reason now my signal is ultra hot through the 1/4". I built all new patches to accomodate this signal and as of now it sounds great. I am finally getting a glimpse into what this effects unit can do while direct!
Currently Being ModeratedNov 12, 2010 11:07 AM (in response to hoodcreeper)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
Well, the fact that it sounds fine through other amps and into garageband (presumably also all using the 1.4") means it's not the HD500. It's the protools setup. It sounds like you're probably under or overdriving the soundcard input into protools. The softness implies underdriving. Turning up would give you a poor quality signal, with a lot of white noise due to poor s/n (signal to noise) ratio. Having said that, the output from the 1/4" plugs is a decent volume. Have you tried plugging your guitar directly into protools (without the HD500). I suspect that'll will also sound bad. You could try the line/amp switch on the HD500, but essentially, it doesn't sound like the problem has anything to do with the HD500 at all.
Try plugging the guitar in directly and let us know the results of that.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 12, 2010 11:21 AM (in response to ozbadman)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
Thanks again for the responses-
The pro tools set up is with my band and I will try to plug guitar directly in tonight to see what happens. i am assuming that I will get a nice clean tone with no HD in the link. The bass player is going through an older Boss multi amp pedal and his tones are great.---I believe there is something missing/wrong with the HD pedal. I appreciate the help and welcome any other ideas.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 12, 2010 11:22 AM (in response to hoodcreeper)Re: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
If you friend is using ProTools then you will have to use the ProTools interface...Have you tried the SPDIF? Might make sense to take out the DA conversion and just let the HD500 hit the ProTools interface digital...Seems like your friends interface would have an SPDIF...That would actually take out the DAD conversion that is going on if your are using the HD500 analog outs...
One thing you could do as a test...take a TRS 1/4 to (2) mono 1/4 cable and run the headphone out into the interface...headphone level stuff is fine for line level inputs...that will tell you a lot like if the inputs on the interface are set to -20 when they should be +4...that sorta thing...
Currently Being ModeratedMar 7, 2011 12:28 PM (in response to hoodcreeper)RE: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
Out of curiosity, did you check your tone panning within your patches? Not sure if that would have had an impact but it's something to check.
Currently Being ModeratedMar 7, 2011 3:53 PM (in response to ricksox)Re: RE: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
At the time of the original problems I don't think that I had tone mixer paning set to center. I do now, but I don't feel like that was the original issue. Signal was just way too weak. Doing great now through a mixer and then out. Maybe better preamps in the current mixer. Is that possible?
Currently Being ModeratedMar 8, 2011 9:52 AM (in response to hoodcreeper)RE: Trouble recording direct. Low volumes and Breakup??
Not sure why it was so low. I recommend panning the tones to the center or adding a COMP effect with the gain turned up to increase the volume output. Perhaps connecting the POD's outputs into instrument level inputs on your interface would help as well.