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Priesty Just Startin'
Priesty
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Nov 29, 2010 12:27 AM

Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

So i'm keen to upgrade to the new pod hd500 but i have some custom tones on my x3 live i want to keep and transfer over to the pod hd500..

 

does anyone know if this can be done? and how so?

 

thankyou!

Tags: sound, pod, x3, live, transfer, tone, 6, line, hd, 500
  • simonp54 Just Startin'
    simonp54
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    Nov 28, 2010
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    Nov 29, 2010 12:35 AM (in response to Priesty)
    Re: Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

    if you save them through the pc software... surely they can be loaded back through there?  I have a hd500 if you wanna try sending me a tone.

  • Amperzand Just Startin'
    Amperzand
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    Nov 29, 2010 12:43 AM (in response to Priesty)
    Re: Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but.... currently you can't use a tone from any other device except another POD HD 500. Each new POD HD device uses a different file format. In this case *.h5e & *.h5s

  • rchoueri Just Startin'
    rchoueri
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    Nov 29, 2010 12:28 PM (in response to Priesty)
    Re: Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

    Well I tried to today w/o avail. I opened up the windows folder and took a tock POD Farm 1 file and also a POD Farm2 file both Guitarport as well as POD X3 Pro patches and first changed the windows file properties to be seen by the HDEditor. Then I changed the file name of the file to the HD Editor's naming convention file extension. No cigar. The old renamed files have different internal headers etc, that cannot be read by the HD Editor. Line 6 made damned sure of that. I am hoping down the road they will write a software app that can convert one format to the other but I am not holding my breath.

     

    ~skygod~

  • Guitarzan Just Startin'
    Guitarzan
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    Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM (in response to Priesty)
    Re: Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

    Yup, no way to load them in. Just wouldn't make sense, as there's not enough correlation between the X3 models and HD models.

     

    What I do, is load the patch into the X box, make note of all the parameters, then try and construct the same or similar effects and amp in the HD along with the settings. Then I play both (X series and HD series) through a speaker or amp to tweak the HD version.

     

    A fair amount of work, so I'm just doing several patches a night (no hurry) BUT you will be rewarded with superior tone in almost all cases.

  • silverhead Expert Line 6 User
    silverhead
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    Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM (in response to Priesty)
    Re: Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

    Here's a related thread that provides further info.....

     

    http://line6.com/community/thread/50006?tstart=60

  • Wound3rd Just Startin'
    Wound3rd
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    Dec 3, 2010 9:06 AM (in response to Priesty)
    Re: Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

    All the settings I had on my XT Live are still viewable in Gearbox even with nothing plugged in. That gives me a starting point and I can get close to previous settings but it's all manual tweaking.

  • airforceguitar Just Startin'
    airforceguitar
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    Nov 7, 2012 9:19 AM (in response to Priesty)
    Re: Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

       I put off upgrading to the HD series because it looked like a completely different operation system than the X3 and I was going on a long tour. I had to buy one of the last "new" X3 Lives out there to have a backup and sure enough, one blew up when it got the wrong power overseas.

     

       I realize that Line6 had some bigger-and-better amp models and all software/hardare developers come to a point where they can't make everything backwards comptable, but it still surprises me that ypu can't load old patches with some kind of convertion. WOW!

     

       It also surprises me that they didn't include all of the older "low-res" amp simulations just to have them available. I'm no software engineer, but it doesn't make sense. Right now I'm glad that I didn't upgrade before the tour, but dissappointed that the other features of the X3 series didn't make it into the HD500, like mic-pre and bass amp models. Especially since they discontinued the X3 series and you can't buy them new anymore. I've owned the original POD, the XT series and the X3 series, and now I'm in no hurry to get an HD except I need a backup on the road. Kinda Sucks!

    • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User
      TheRealZap
      11,829 posts since
      Dec 22, 2006
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      Nov 7, 2012 10:12 AM (in response to airforceguitar)
      Re: Transfer tones from Pod X3 Live to Pod HD500

      airforceguitar wrote:

       

         I put off upgrading to the HD series because it looked like a completely different operation system than the X3 and I was going on a long tour. I had to buy one of the last "new" X3 Lives out there to have a backup and sure enough, one blew up when it got the wrong power overseas.

       

         I realize that Line6 had some bigger-and-better amp models and all software/hardare developers come to a point where they can't make everything backwards comptable, but it still surprises me that ypu can't load old patches with some kind of convertion. WOW!

       

         It also surprises me that they didn't include all of the older "low-res" amp simulations just to have them available. I'm no software engineer, but it doesn't make sense. Right now I'm glad that I didn't upgrade before the tour, but dissappointed that the other features of the X3 series didn't make it into the HD500, like mic-pre and bass amp models. Especially since they discontinued the X3 series and you can't buy them new anymore. I've owned the original POD, the XT series and the X3 series, and now I'm in no hurry to get an HD except I need a backup on the road. Kinda Sucks!

       

      the same amps and effects do not exist for hd and x3... so conversion would be a total guess.. which leaves you tweaking to taste... from somewhere most likely far far from your starting point... even the amp models that share the same basis between the 2 units was completely redone with different goals etc...

      bottom line, no conversion would have sounded the same anyway...

       

      the XT low res pack, is an interesting idea, but even then you'd not have the same style of dual tone implementation... nor the same x-series limitations...

      would be cool...

      not sure how it would come out though, because the internal resolutions of the hd etc... would have re-sampled/up-sampled etc... and the result would have been a difference in sound....

      basically you'd be doing alot of adjustments either way... so why not get an HD and start with that anyway? <--(rhetorical)

      certainly agree that some of the x-series features etc are missed.

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