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Currently Being ModeratedRe: MerlinFL's (aka Neal) Forum for all things JTV, POD HD500, & DT50
Obviously I can't agree with you since I'm quite proud of being seen and heard playing through Line 6 gear. Also, once a company has establiched itself in not just a US market, but a worldwide market, why should they change the look of their company name? I think DIESEL looks stupid and near impossible to read from a distance, does that mean they should change their name?
But now that I look the company did change it'se logo on the amps a bit since my Vetta 1 has a slightly different looking logo than does the DT50s I have. Do I care? Not in the least. I also drive a wonderful 22 yr old Toyota 4x4 pick up with regular size rims that i got with the truck back in 1989. The paint has literally vanished from the hood in this hot Florida sun over th past 10 years I've lived here. Do I care what it looks like, or does how it runs reliably make a bigger impression on me? Do I swap out vehicles after only a few years so I can have whatever new version comes out? No, I'm not that superficial. I also know that I'm not alone in my way of thinking, but I also know their are others who are far more concerned with appearance than performance. MTV proves that every minute of every day.
What troubles me most is how you can think the HD500 is too big?? How are those any knobs you might be referring to interferring with your view of the large LCD display in any possible way? Really??
But to each their own. I'm not wanting to spend any more time discussion our differing opinons about logos and other such things.
Happy Holidays,
Neal
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Got it all covered...guitars of any kind, bass, synthesizer, and even vocals. Yes, it IS all connected together by MIDI, S/PDIF, L6 Link, and simple 1/4" connections. Obviously dominated by the presence of several line of Line 6 gear from 2003 thru 2011. Now if I can just afford a roadie...my back is killing me!! LOL
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MerlinFL wrote:
Do I care? Not in the least. I also drive a wonderful 22 yr old Toyota 4x4 pick up with regular size rims that i got with the truck back in 1989. The paint has literally vanished from the hood in this hot Florida sun over th past 10 years I've lived here. Do I care what it looks like, or does how it runs reliably make a bigger impression on me? Do I swap out vehicles after only a few years so I can have whatever new version comes out? No, I'm not that superficial. I also know that I'm not alone in my way of thinking, but I also know their are others who are far more concerned with appearance than performance. MTV proves that every minute of every day.
I agree in regards to MTV. If my comments suggest to you that I am superficial, then I suppose that is your choice to take them that way. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting a piece of gear that you wanna love to death, being appealing to one's visual palette. I like vintage cars, vintage guitars, and a lot of things that exhibit superior design. If liking those things makes me superficial, then I feel no shame in it. However, the aversion to the Line 6 logo has less to do with the look of it, and more to do with the perceived reputation of it.
MerlinFL wrote:
What troubles me most is how you can think the HD500 is too big?? How are those any knobs you might be referring to interferring with your view of the large LCD display in any possible way? Really??
The HD500 is at least 4 times bigger than a bean-sized pod, and 4 times bigger than my ToneLab. Yes, that is big when you have limited space.
Because it is so big, the only useful place I could put it was underneath my keyboard on a little table. This means that I was unable to look straight down on it, but had to view the LCD display at about a 45 degree angle. Well, the four little knobs a the bottom on the LCD display are not ergonomically placed, because when you put your hand on them to turn them, your hand blocks the LCD display so that you cannot see how the LCD control is responding to the physical turning of the knobs. That is not very good design by any means. If you haven't encountered that, then you probably have more space and was able to put the unit in a spot where you could adjust your body position to see the LCD display while you turn the knobs. That may be fine and dandy for you, but that was not working for me. It was a serious flaw--and that has nothing to do with anything superficial. That has all to do with function and performance.
MerlinFL wrote:
But to each their own. I'm not wanting to spend any more time discussion our differing opinons about logos and other such things.
You know, if I had kept responding and ranting about the logo thing, then you might write such a comment. But since I didn't do that, I don't really see the need for your statement that borders on dismissive. Just keeping quiet is a nicer way of not participating in the discussion without having to rub anyone the wrong way.
I don't mean to cast any shadows on the holiday, so please carry on in good spirits. But understand why I felt compelled to respond with a little snarkiness.
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And nothing I've written or posted should rain on anyone's happy holiday season. I'm happy as a clam and glad to be still performing live after all these years.
You know, if I had kept responding and ranting about the logo thing, then you might write such a comment. But since I didn't do that, I don't really see the need for your statement that borders on dismissive. Just keeping quiet is a nicer way of not participating in the discussion without having to rub anyone the wrong way.
I don't mean to cast any shadows on the holiday, so please carry on in good spirits. But understand why I felt compelled to respond with a little snarkiness.
Well it's not just you that has made such remarks. If you chose to take my remarks as unkind or dismissive, or anything negative towards your opinions, then it's a shame. I do not dismiss anyone's opinions whether I agree with them or not. However, what you wrote reads to me as...demeaning to anyone who doesn't worry, be concerned, or certainly not embarrassed by the logo of the Line 6 company amplifier products. With that in mind I felt the need to stick up for the company. And that is all I did, plus give a bit of my personal thinking for my rebuttal post. I never do anything without a reason.
However...I've been attacked, dissected, demeaned, and out right b*tched at for having a brain, having an opinion, sticking up for or criticizing others including the Line 6 company on these boards. And here it is in a forum I created I have you doing nearly the same thing. Why?? You wrote about me being quiet, does this not apply to you as well?? you did not need to bring up such a thing as the logo as jumping off point for your thoughts about the size of the HD500 (which is indeed average in size for a pedalboard - ya might wish to check into this for your own store of information) and other remarks about knobs and such. This is not condescending or nasty...I'm simply trying to be educational about what is average in the world of pedalboards.
Here's an opinion of mine for ya...I LOVE the playability, weight, and balance of the JTV-89, but HATE the headstock. I hate everything about the headstock and especially the very horrible way they chose to write the logo on this model guitar. Is this supposed to be more "metal-like" having a reverse in-line 6 with lots of lettering. I'm not a metal-head, but I really love the feel of the neck. Conversely, I LOVE the headstock of the JTV-59 (as well as everything else about this model) which is nearly identical to the headstock on the Variax model 700 that was not designed by James Tyler.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE!!!
This is a photo of what happens when you need to be able to produce nearly any sound at any time during a live performance. It also shows what you can do with Line 6 gear as well as other gear. It's all tied together by all the means this large amount of equipment gives to me. I really can't count on anyone else to put in the dedication I do, and this is what it looks like before I break my back packing it up for a live show every week. This rig covers, all guitars, bass, synthesizers, bass pedals (I have a 2nd set (Roland PK-5) not in the photo that sits to the right of my Taurus III) as well as two bass cabs. I'm going to be adding electronic drums instead of my acoustic ones so I can plug that kit into this rig as well. Everything can trigger everything else as well as change programs, patches, etc.
Any other talented musicians out there with high range lead vocals - male or female (preferred)?? Want to play any style of music from Funk to Prog Rock and all in between. I'm willing to relocate if the situation is right.
.....or.....
Any bands out there within the USA needing a multi-instrumentalist (guitar, bass, drums, keys) with good harmony vocals??
That's my Christmas & New Year wish. PEACE.
Neal
Message was edited by: Neal Van who simply added a photo that should now appear.
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MerlinFL wrote:
You wrote about me being quiet, does this not apply to you as well??
Point taken. I certainly don't wish to demean anyone who uses Line 6 products, and I should probably stop saying any more negative things in regards to my feelings about their perceived reputation. I was rubbed the wrong way by the handling of the JTV roll-out, but in the end I do like Line 6 products and want them to be successful and to keep creating new products, so I should try to be less critical. My apologies.
But I do stand by my comments of the ergonomic issue of the HD500. I suppose they never considered that a user might have to use the unit from a 45 degree angle, and I would hope they will rethink this issue in future generation models.
MerlinFL wrote:
Here's an opinion of mine for ya...I LOVE the playability, weight, and balance of the JTV-89, but HATE the headstock. I hate everything about the headstock and especially the very horrible way they chose to write the logo on this model guitar. Is this supposed to be more "metal-like" having a reverse in-line 6 with lots of lettering. I'm not a metal-head, but I really love the feel of the neck. Conversely, I LOVE the headstock of the JTV-59 (as well as everything else about this model) which is nearly identical to the headstock on the Variax model 700 that was not designed by James Tyler.
I agree about the headstocks. I also like the JTV-59 headstock, but am not a fan of the 69 or 89. I really like the headstock on my Variax 600 however, which is very Fender-like. At this point, the JTV which I am considering to be the first runner up to replace my 600 when it breaks down will be a JTV-59, unless they come out with a 3rd generation before that time, which would be cool.
Anyways Neal. Best of the Season to you. Peace, indeed.
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I read a question asking how to best set up a POD HD500 with an amp on stage and a separate signal to FOH.
Nick M. gave a very detailed explanation which certainly does work, but I thought I'd add my very simple solution since I have to run PA for many bands and they all don't use Line 6 guitar gear. All an amp needs to have for my solution is a headphone jack built in. Certainly all Line 6 amps have this built in and works especially well when dealing with Spider amps or any modeling pedalboards.
Hi Nick and any others reading this forum. I read your entire post explaining your trials with the HD500 stage amp and FOH signal. You didn't mention something I've been doing with amps from Line and other companies for many years that DOES give you what you all want without much fuss. Plug your stage amp using whatever preamp settings sounds best for your purpose, THEN plug a SINGLE 1/4" jack HALF WAY into the headphone output.
Before you start shaking your heads at how silly this seems or how the impedence is all mismatched - I've done this for years live and it work perfectly if done exactly how I will describe.
With the single 1/4" cord plugged half way into the headphone jack or a simple Stereo to mono adapter jack (or if you feel half way is not good enough or you do need or want full stereo, then use a 1/4" TRS with either two DI's), if close enough, you can plug direct into your FOH board as a line level 1/4" input with no major trim adjustments needed. IF you are running down a snake to the FOH board, then you will need an active or passvie DI box. The headphone jack is ALWAYS in Studio/Direct mode. No matter what you change for the 1/4" line outs or the XLR outputs.
See - you can "have you cake and eat it too" as the old saying goes if you know how to do it.
Another chapter from my book of tips and tricks,
Neal
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I wrote my "start-up guide" for a newbie and thought while I was at it, I should be as thorough as possible in case others come across this. Nearly all info in the post I'm including has come from over 8 years of working with Line 6 gear. Plus many other bits I've learned over my years playing at the pro level since 1976. I started out simple enough...A Les Paul copy, a Marshall Plexi 50w head with an 8x10 cabinet (Marshall has never reissued this cabinet like everything else they have made of the decades), as well as all the gear I owned, others I've worked with owned and spending lots of time being a roadie and trying to learn from techs and players that knew far more than I did back in those days.
This "Neal's Start-up Guide" encompasses all the new Line 6 gear and what I found works best for getting started. I hope my trials, errors, and experiences can be of help to new users and even some experienced users who might not think of trying these suggestions. No big deal, but Silverhead and L6Tony liked it and that made me pleased with myself.
Hi Ledpuppet - Out of the box I would say the HD500 is NOT gig ready. Does it function - certainly unless defective, but I don't think that is what you meant with your questions.
I offer my findings as a long user of Line 6 guitar gear exclusively, well almost as that has changed in the past few months) but I digress. When I first got my HD500, I was very disappointed with the very limited number of amps/cabs compared to my Vetta which has 80 instead of the 16 (now updated to 22). I think the factory presets are mostly unusable by most players. The following is what I recommend you take as your first steps to get to know this product properly...
- Forget about all your other gear except the guitar (or guitars) you plan to use with this unit. Get a GREAT pair of headphones, DO NOT use an amp at low volumes at this stage. This will seem very strange to you perhaps, and perhaps to any others who read this as well, but there are very good reasons I am writing my suggestions to you in this manner and in this step by step fashion. The end result should make everything very clear - I hope.
- be VERY careful with the power supply and how you plug it in, where it sits on stage, and take care to be as gentle as possible with the power connection point as it breaks quite easily. A replacement power supply is about $50.00. and much worse if the jack inside the unit breaks or "falls in". Sure it's all covered by a warranty, but who wants to wait weeks for something as simple as a power supply problem?
- Take the time to find and either print or simply save the expanded HD500 Users Guide online. The manual with the unit is far too basic to be much help.
- While reading through the expanded manual...use the most recent version of Monkey to upgrade the unit to the full 22 amps/cabs with the added features of bias adjustment, etc. AND the POD HD500 EDIT software!! This requires the use of the Line 6 monkey which is FREE if you do not have the most recent version. then connect via the USB cable to your computers HUB directly and follow the updating procedures
- DO NOT even bother with ANY of the banks of presets in the POD HD EDIT software for the time being. I STRONGLY SUGGEST working this way instead of working only on the unit as it will save you lots of time and make many "hidden" inner workings and signal paths of the unit much clearer. Plus the advantage of copy and paste for some sections of repeated programming is useful.
- After all the updating of all the hardware and software is finished, then go to an empty USER BANK and start there with a blank slate. Any patches from any of the presets can be simply dragged in and dropped into any slot you choose and modified if needed. But I would want YOU to get to know which amps are there and what default settings each amp has. Each amp has two versions PRE and FULL. Pre is just that...the PREAMP section of whatever amp you are looking at plus the FX you may choose to add in the signal chain. HOWEVER, if using the unit without any amp you should choose FULL as it will then model whatever cabinets and microphones you desire. Using the headphones automatically puts each amp into this mode. This mode is also adjustable as you will read in the advanced manual. This is an important step BEFORE you plug into the power section of the SpiderValve. Some sounds may sound better for your purpose in PRE and others better in FULL. But that will come later making those choices.
- Without turning the volume up too loud and cause your ears to ring, plug your guitar into the 1/4" input jack. put on the headphones and then sit with your HD500 connected to your computer with POD HD500 EDIT running. As you change amps, you will hear each through the headphones and give you the best possible idea of what amps will do the job you are looking for. Also, please do not let the name alone fool you. Just because it's a Vox/Fender, does not mean it can't be used for heavy metal, or Bogner/Mesa can't be used for warm clean sounds. That is a combination of your guitars volume knob setting and the input gain of each amp. Seriously spend time checking out all the sounds in FULL mode as with headphones on -as I wrote before- the unit will default to FULL anyway.
- One other bit about why headphones...It is so you can hear what the amp SHOULD sound like when turned up to a volume that the amp was designed to actually run at. And you hear much more detail with GREAT headphones this way as well. Truly great headphones will cost about $150.00 - 300.00 and is worth the expense if you are serious about getting the most from this unit.
- LEARN - TRY - ADJUST - TWEAK - REPEAT............this should go on for quite a while until you get to know each and every nuance of each amp model you wish to use.
- Once all that has taken place, then simply run the HD500 into the power amp in or FX return and there you have your SpiderValve as your power amp to the preamp of the HD500. You'll know everything you need to know to choose PRE or FULL for each patch you intend to create if you've taken my instructions seriously up to this point.
- Last thing before playing out - turn your amp up to the stage volume you usually perform at and then make any final tweaks or adjustments to the HD500.
- If you wish to cut some corners, there are TONS of worthwhile patches @ CustomTone.com located from this website.
- If after all this you still wish to use the SpiderValve amp models and just use the HD500 as an FX pedal, that is obviously your choice. no matter what I've written, it always comes down to what is best for the player using their gear to get the best performances possible. You might find that you don't need the amp models on the SpiderValve which would give you much more flexibility in WHERE you place your FX in the signal chain. Using the SV amp, you are limited to all your FX being in front of the power section unless we get into the "FOUR CABLE METHOD" and I'll leave that method for others who use it and like it.
I hope this helps you and anyone else who might read this small booklet of one persons findings on how best to work with the HD500.
Take care,
Neal
PS - you can always use your current FX pedals inside the FX loop of the HD500 which also gives you options on where to place those FX in the signal chain. Dual amp sounds are best in my opinion as you create TWO independent signal paths that will both end up in front of your SV power section. In other words, you can have FX in one path that are different or the same as ones in the other signal path. And each amp can be completely different from each other for switching back and forth or combining for wider sonic possiblities.
There ya have it and I can only hope it helps those who want it or need it. I've read too many posts about POD HD products being sent back, being put down as crap, etc. and even though I had a VERY hard time adjusting to this new gear, I didn't give up and now I find many excellent bits very worthwhile and wish others discover the same. It's a new year and perhaps this will be one of many great strides for Line 6 and those of us that choose to use their gear.
Take care,
Neal
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This post copied from a question regarding closed back cabinets NOT having enough Low Q control as closed back cabs...
+ 1 to what "jvblack" wrote on how to turn the speaker off within the software. That is exactly correct.
Or you can disconnect the speakers inside the open back cabinet and leave them unplugged as long as you use a closed back cabinet of ANY KIND that matches the minimum Ohm load per channel.
My personal favorite answer to this question it to ask a question first. How loud do you play on stage? You've written that you've turned the low Q down and you still get "uncontrollable low frequencies especially when palm muting".
I've had a Vetta 2x12 combo since 2003 with the original Celestion Custom 90 speakers in it and have never had this problem. I play a variety of material and I can't even play my amp with FULL POWER MODE on. I use HALF POWER mode and I get more than enough volume for any style of music I play heavy metal or not. I also do not play a 7 or now 8 string guitar, but I DO have custom tunings I've created on my Variax guitars that are tuned down to "B" like a Baritone guitar is tuned with no bass "overload" problems. If you're like most metal players I've worked with live or in the studio - they have this weird EQ thig they do where they THINK they are getting the sound they hear by their favorite metal players, but in reality they are far from how that sound is accomplished. These guys I've worked with scoop out nearly all the mids and crank the highs & lows. That is precisely the opposite way of getting that mean crunk for playing metal. But I digress...
Please don't try making your combo into a head, do as previously suggested if the knobs are not where you want them...buy a used good condition Vetta II head and perhaps sell your Vetta combo.
ALso, I've found that using my Line 6 Vetta and opther Line 6 gear that produces acoustic guitar sounds (don't know if you ever need this or not) The BEST cabinet solution is a good (4ohm for mono or a pair or 8ohm for keeping the stereo output the same) BASS CABINET by several of the better bass cabinet makers. I don't recommend PA cabs for this as nearly all of those horns are NOT adjustable as they are on bass cabs with horns or tweeters.
Oh, and you always do have the option of using a stereo power amp (tube or solid state) from your Vetta into any cabinets you choose. This would give you the option of using your internal speakers, PLUS using the external amp and speakers. One with a VARIABLE horn and my personal preference is one with 10" speakers.
BUT if you want more bottom end, go with one with 12" or even a combination of 10/12 with a 15". These cabs are ALWAYS closed backed for the PUNCH gained by the air compression within the cabinet that MOST guitar cabs don't have, PLUS you gain the added bonus of having a full range cabinet that can produce shimmering high Q if needed for acoustic patches.
And it that is still not enough frequency control for you - you also can add a stereo 31-band Graphic EQ cheaply from Behringer or other company that makes quality gear at inexpensive prices. In this manner you not only do not have to make severe EQ setting within the patchm, but just let the amp "cruise" at a nominal volume and crank up the external amp/EQ and that will come out of whatever external cabinets you have connected to the external power amp.
I hope this helps you in your decision making. Perhaps other might even get some ideas based on my out-of-the-box thinking in matters like these?
Take care,
Neal
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Hi Neal,
I would sure appreciate a copy of the Word document you typed with instructions for getting Vetta II to save JVT-59 settings/patches.
It's 1:33 AM and I can't figure it out!
Thanks Neal!
Hugh Williams
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Hi hugh - I'm sorry i forgot that post was still thee, but I leave all my posts so anyone can what happens to me as I learn the gear I have.
This is no longer true, and honestly probably was some gliche that it worked at all the one day it did save and recall JTV guitar patches.
The ONLY thing the Vetta will save and recall is the tone knob setting. Yeah, this is very weird, bt it is also 100% correct. Now with all the revisions to the JTV software and as the guitar drifts further and further away from where it started, no chance it will ever work properly with a evtta via VDI like all the previous model Variax guitars do.
The only suggestion I can make to you is this...buy an HD500 and while this is a very complicated unit to start with, I wrote my own starters Guide which is posted on this thrad and several other places includung being a featured document in the POD HD main forum. If you get a POD HD500, then you can have the HD500 save all of your guitar patches, then you will need to do the following into the Vetta.
For every patch on the Vetta that you REALLY use, you need to make a correcsponding number patch with the FX loop block as the FIRST item in the signal chain. Leave the Send and return to their default settings, and adjust the MIX to somewhere between 50-60 percent. Take a 1/4" cable from the FX SSend and plug that in the Vetta 1/4" input. THEN get AT LEAST one MIDI cable and connect the HD500 MIDI OUT to the Vetta MIDI IN. This will make the Vetta change patches when you changes patch numbers on the HD500. This works perfectly. Not what I wanted, nor what I asked for, but what I figured out to keep what I love and start working with the new. Then of course, ALL Vetta patch functions will work with the FBV longboard. Yes, you need to have BOTH to get this to work as I'v described and there is no shortcut. I've spent two years trying to find one. There ARE many benefits from this set up though if you want to experiment. Like you can have any of the older Variax guitars plugged into the VDI jack on the Vetta and they will continue to work as designed. I put one on a walk behind stand for just that purpose. I also added Roland GR-55 to my rig with the GK3 pick-up mounted on my older Vax 700. Now I have all the modeled Line 6 sounds, PLUS all the modeled and synth sound from Roland. A very cool combination!!
Here's what it looked like when I got started, then the following photo is where I'm at now...
This is where I am now...
I'm sorry about the bad news, but I hope I've given you some food for thought on what your next move might be.
Take care,
Neal
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Copied from a post asking preferences of WHERE the Volume pedal should go...
Since you are asking for users preferences, I'd be happy to share mine.
I almost always put the Vol/Pan control at the end of the signal chain. Not just after the amp, but at the very end of everything.
I do this as I just wish to control my overall output volume with my foot instead of any other way. This applies whether I'm running my POD HD direct to PA, or into an standard amp's FX return, or in my "Dream Rig" combination.
It's just for literal volume control of my patch. I'll usually have other items in the blacks to do more gain, or any other FX I need or want to turn on or off. I also nearly always put the Wah when I want one in my patch at the front of very close to the front and ALWAYS Pre amp. Pos amp is an interesting effect, but I'm just giving my typical choices as you asked.
I CHOOSE to use the guitars volume control (which using a Variax guitar especially since I can customize HOW that volume knob works with the choice of resistance in the Workbench software) which gives me cleaner response from any of my higher gain amp patches. It certainly personal preference, but you asked for other players ideas and uses. This is my typical use.
If I was doing a song that required me to do Volume SWELLS, I probably would use TWO Volume pedals putting one Vol/Pan pedal pre amp, or pre whatever I wanted to by effected by the increase of volume. This is something Strat players can do much easier with their pinky wrapped around the volume knob instead of the Les Paul control design.
However, using the guitar volume knob will be by definition swelling gain into EVERYTHING from the first point in your signal chain. Using a selected volume pedal, you can place it in a specific point of that chain to swell where you want.
For example, if you are using a noise gate, it's tough to swell smoothly in FRONT of a noise gate, but easy after that same unit with the volume pedal placed after it in th signal chain. Another example would be using a SIMPLE delay after a noise gate, BUT in FRONT of the Volume pedal. You can have you delay not affected by your swell in volume and creates some interesting sonic landscapes depending on the delay's settings.
I could write a ton of examples of things I've done over the many years which started with my first Vetta purchased back in 2003. I've had all these years to experiment with signal chains and customizing nearly every bit of every patch I've created in all this time. But I think these few examples should give you plenty of ideas what YOU can do for YOUR personal performance needs.
Take care,
Neal
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Copied from a post discussing alternate tunings.
litesnsirens wrote:
I can assure you that you aren't the only one who has done that with alternate tunings. LOL (I'm talking about the live mental glitch)
Neal, I'm assuming when you say you use workbench to create and store alternate tunings that you mean into the custom banks on the JTV.
-- Nope - I have altered almost every single guitar slot in every bank including thre two Custom banks. When the original Variax guitars came out, I thought that i'd be stuck with only 10 slots for anything I created. this is not the case. Every slot in any bank can be anything you wish to store in that spot. When the VDI cable is used and a stored patch is recalled in older or new gear - it stores the bank/slot position. It shows whatever name you've given and in the older Variax, you would see an "F" or a "U" so you would know which banks of guitars you were choosing or recalling from the Vetta or any other pre-POD HD piece of VDI equipped gear.
Unless I'm missing some cool trick it would be nice if we could create custom tunings in workbench and then store them on the alt tune knob some how as if we were doing a virtual capo function on the guitar itself.
-- You can't store anything from Workbench onto the Alt tuning knob as it stands right now. However, you can create alternate tunings on the guitar itself and stoe those alternate tunings in any alternate tubning slot except "MODEL" or "STANDARD". You follow the procedures for creating alternate tunings on-the-fly as demonstrated on the Line 6 Tutorial videos, or in the Advanced JTV Users Guide posted online in the manual section.
I can't believe they haven't got an alt tune page in workbench yet. Not only would that be easier than going through what you and edstar have gone through (and myself on occasion) but it would be really handy when there is a major JTV update like this last one. Instead of having to manually put all my custom tunings back on the guitar I could load in the save alt tune bank that I created in workbench with this cool feature that doesn't exist yet.I'm not sure why you would want to save and recall tunings beyond those on the alternate tuning knob? Doing that removes temporarily all the alternate tunings available, and it would not give you any guitar models to choose from - just tuning options which you have many on the knob as default, plus with 1.81 functionality - you can create any alternate tuning specifically for any guitar available on the guitar and tune it using the POD HD500 or POD HD PRO Edit software functions to alternately tune every single patch on every single bank of those POD HD units if you wanted or needed to.
I'd prefer two things to have happen - one of which is being worked on already.
- Get the new Acoustic models to read, and recall any alternate tunings without the use of "Custom (Force) Tuning" from the POD HD units. This prevents me from playing my guitar in acoustic mode through any other amp or direct through PA with my alternate tuned patches as I used to be able to do with the JTV 1.71 version.
- How about this for a suggestion I've already posted in the product feedback section and on my most recent Acoustic model demonstration of the Dream Rig. Someone in the Dream Rig Group was not able to get his acoustic models to sound clean and undistorted.
I gave instructions, those didn't work and he asked me if I had or could create a video to demonstrate how the Dream Rig sounds for me. This gave me the thought that since so very many have complained about the "airiness" of the the new JTV 1.81 Dreadnought, Parlor, and Jumbo guitars in just that one bank.
Many prefer the drier, more in-your-face, sound of the JTV 1.71 acoustic models in that one Acoustic bank. but it's now either keep the acoustic guitar sounds many prefer and lose out on the 1.81 other functionality, or deal with the acoustic models just to have the new 1.81 functionality. I suggested using one of the Custom banks for the older 1.71 acoustic guitar models while keeping the 1.81 acoustic guitar models in the standard acoustic bank as they are now.
Nothing in the either Custom bank are unique models and I doubt highly anyone would be upset if Line 6 chose to accommodate both groups of acoustic preferences by switching Custom Bank 1 to the older JTV 1.71 Acoustic guitar models that Line 6 already has. The tech team would only need to change out Custom Bank 1 with the older acoustic guitar models with those currently in Custom Bank 1. I'm not a tech writer, but I would think that this would be fairly easy to accomplish with a minimum of tech time doing it. Plus it would also give us acoustic guitar models we already know work with alternate tunings created in Workbench until the JTV 1.81 acoustic tuning problems is resolved.
If anyone is interested in my video demo in two parts - it can be found in the Dream Rig User's group as well as on YouTube at least links. If you do choose to watch them both together take about 20 mins. They are very rough and done in one take. All my performance mistakes are left, because it was just for the purpose of demonstrating the sound I get from my Dream Rig by itself without any other speakers, or amplifiers. Please do watch both in order to understand my demonstration correctly - thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gpJHrGdkEU&list=UUPyEGIOoZ1_Y2sg_OLJ-HJw&index=1&feature=plcp Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfytZ-2vL9Q&list=UUPyEGIOoZ1_Y2sg_OLJ-HJw&index=2&feature=plcp Part 2
Take care,
Neal
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: MerlinFL's (aka Neal) Forum for all things JTV, POD HD500, & DT50
I thought I would post a copy of my reply from the "Why did Line 6 Stop Making Vettas Forum" here since this is a forum entitled "What Every HD500 Owner Needs To Know". I thought this reply would qualify based on many questions and discussions in other Dream Rig, POD HD, and DT50/25 forums...
If this is repiticious, I apologize, but I just copy my posts in their entirety on this site which is my "home base" for all my posts. Just in case anyone asks what I've done or been doing on these boards, I can easily answer any question by using just this one place.
Here's a photo of my rig with my 2003 Vetta sitting on top. When in 2006 I got my first Variax guitar, I was able to easily purchase the VDI interface for my Vetta. It's a very easy install as well since Line 6 planned for it in advance and there is a blank panel with just one ribbon cable that needs to be rerouted into the VDI panel, then plugged back in.
Since 2007 when Line 6 "officially" stopped producing Vetta II amps and spent nearly all their amplifier development time with Bogner upgrading the Spider amp line, while also developing the POD HD/DT line of products were designed. While a completely different team took over the design of the JTV guitar line from the original Variax designers a Line 6.
This last sentence is just a guess...but considering nothing new was done from 2005 when the first Variax guitars were introduced until the latest 1.81 upgrade which included (3) 6-string & (2) 12-string modified acoustic guitar models from just that one bank. Oh, I should mention (all of which are just my opinion) that the modeling of all guitars ranges from greatly improved to slightly improved with the original 1.70 software that came with the first batch of JTV line of guitars.
I felt the most improved were the acoustic models in 1.71, and least improved were the Rickenbacker electric 12-string guitar models from the original Variax guitar models. I'm sure that this will be addressed in some future JTV update. Right now, resolving the alternate tuning problems with the new acoustic guitar models is most likely the top priority for the techs working on this aspect of the JTV guitar modeling.
If what you've heard is true about newer version of the Vetta amps being produced in the future...I'll look forward to that day with great anticipation. However, if you have the time, the desire, and the finances (or payment plans in my case) - I suggest combining the two as I've done with the older Vax guitars and the new JTV guitars.
I've also added a pair of Roland GR-55 units since they are truly excellent units, relatively small price tag for their capabilities, and the GK-3 pick-ups for both my older Variax guitars connect to one GR-55 in Guitar Mode and one GR-55 in Bass Mode for my 6-string Tobias bass.
I honestly can't think of anything more I could use beyond this collection of gear. I know there are other modeling units available, but I've not had any opportunity to do more than watch demo videos and read what others think. I started my exclusive Line 6 guitar use such a long time ago, and after all this time and financial investment - I can't see any reason to switch to a completely new guitar system. Most importantly, I'm very pleased with all I was able to compile over the years allowing me to play nearly any sound I wish as well as any style of music I'm capable of.
I also just posted a 2-part demo of the Line 6 Dream Rig in various acoustic modes to respond to a request asked of me in the Dream Rig forum. Here's a photo of my rig, plus a link to my demo/instructional videos if any here would wish to check out just one aspect of the new Line 6 gear in action without any additional gear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gpJHrGdkEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLc1FToEkwk
And the photo....
I hope this gives food for thought.
Take care,
Neal
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Currently Being ModeratedRe: MerlinFL's (aka Neal) Forum for all things JTV, POD HD500, & DT50
Copied from two different forums discussing the same topic of Trouble Tickets submitted for the JTV 1.81 problems.
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Hi Hugo - can you confirm my support ticket has been received?
And also if this is within your scope of things...could you let me know if my JTV bank suggestion of using Custom Bank 1 for the 1.71 Acoustic Models and the typical Acoustic bank still for the 1.81 models has been received by the people who get those submissions? I submitted it at the link you posted above this post.
Not much allowed room to explain a thought in any detail. It would be an excellent feature if the page had a character counter like YouTube and other sites have when typing comments, replies, etc. so you don't find out it's too long after you've finished writing and it deletes everything while stating the message exceed the maximum character limit. Very frustrating to type something only to have it erased if it's too long by even one character.
I submitted this suggestion over two weeks ago after reading all the posts stating they prefer the older acoustic patch sound, but yet still want the 1.81 functionality. I thought having one of the Custom Banks used for this purpose would be an excellent option for all the JTV users who like either version of acoustic guitar models. Plus if able to be done quickly, it would be a resolve to the alt tuning problem with the 1.81 acoustic patches until that issue is resolved.
It seems to me like a "win-win" scenario as the Custom banks really don't have any unique guitar models or tones in either of them. And based on the stock models in both Custom Banks all the way back to the first Variax guitar model banks, Custom Bank 1 doesn't even have any alternate tuned patches like Custom Bank 2 does.
Of course I'm not a tech writer and think it would be fairly easy to change one bank for another? I might be presuming incorrectly, but its not like anything new would have to be written since that bank of patches already exists.
Any answer to my questions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Neal
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Thi is copied from a forum I've not posted anything in, but I felt was related to other posting and situations that I've had going from JTV 1.71 to JTV 1.81. Here's a copy of the most recent post as of this time & date to the forum listed in this copied post...
Re: Updating JTV-69 to 1.81 fails
created by stephencaldow in James Tyler Variax Guitars - View the full discussion
Hi there,
I'd like to join the club of being extremely frustrated at this new 1.81 update. Using the latest Line 6 Monkey software I proceeded to update from 1.71 to the new 1.81 patch, I recieved the same Error message. It wiped the whole guitar and only left me with just one acoustic model regardless of which model I select on the guitar. I went back to Line 6 monkey and rolled back to 1.71, which again didn't work (guitar still wiped of all models) repeated the process again and have finally managed to get the guitar back to version 1.71. I am using Windows XP and the USB interface and cables that came with my JTV 59.
Real pain.
There it is. If anyone wants to read how this started and what others wrote on this forum, just click the link to the full discussion.
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