Currently Being ModeratedApr 1, 2011 9:13 PM (in response to amx05462)Re: ₪฿>D}... Excellency! Your persistence prevails!!!
... they are beginning to spell and type like Yourself, Great One!
Currently Being ModeratedApr 1, 2011 9:19 PM (in response to JellyWheat)Re: ₪฿>D}... Excellency! Your persistence prevails!!!
yes i see. i may have created what i will call amxbonics.
persistance you know persistance...............
Currently Being ModeratedApr 1, 2011 9:25 PM (in response to amx05462)Re: ₪฿>D}... Excellency! Your persistence prevails!!!
i have one of these
Currently Being ModeratedApr 2, 2011 3:57 AM (in response to cristian_amp)Re: A pedal for an acustic guitar??
This is actually sort of a silly discussion, since the question should be framed around the kind of sound you envision creating and not "what will work".
The characteristic sound of a nylon string is due to the presence of a rapidly-decaying, strong fundamental, with few overtone series residing on the string. Certain electric guitar effects work off the overtones produced by the guitar to a much greater extent than they depend on the fundamental. A nylon string guitar has LOTS of fundamental, but little in the line of overtones, and the overtones it does produce are even-numbered.
Distortion effects typically emphasize odd-numbered harmonic series. Some effects are based on detuning, some on phasing characteristics of a split signal, etc., etc.. The relatively rapid decay of nylon string notes attenuates the "processed" sound perceived by the listener. Modulation and delay effects should work fine with the Variax 300 Nylon, whereas gain (distortion) and compression effects may not work so well.
Please excuse my lack of enthusiasm in answering your question in its present form. It would be easier and more interesting if we were actually contemplating the creation of a particular musical result instead of "what will work" [...work to accomplish what end?].
["Aurum ex faeces non surrepsit" Marcus Tullius Cicero circa 65 B.C.r
Currently Being ModeratedApr 2, 2011 4:12 AM (in response to JellyWheat)Re: A pedal for an acustic guitar??
oh oh. ill be loosing pernts for an incorrect answer i suppose.
sorry i based my answer on the question which was waht will work with my guitar.
over here at my place all pedals work with my classical guitar with the martin pickup. and i have frequently used it through a tonelab pedal.
then again............its not a variax.... so i understand.
btw good morning J/W fellow knoght of the trapasoidal table
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Currently Being ModeratedApr 2, 2011 4:34 AM (in response to amx05462)Re: A pedal for an acustic guitar??
Good morning Fellow Knought! Be careful not to break wind inside your suit of armour, or you may pass out, Excellency!
All kidding aside, I was going to say the same as you when I first read the question... theoretically, any pedal should work with input from a piezo-eqipped classical guitar. HOW WELL the effect does its job, however, will depend on the nature of the tone shaping the pedal is designed to perform. Your Martin pickup is probably pretty "hot" compared to a lot of others, and you are right: the output from the Variax is not a raw direct out from the transducer. The signal has already been processed quite a bit by the time it gets to the input stage of the pedal, and may not be delivering exactly the kind of input signal the pedal needs to work properly.
I also have to wonder what the effects chain looks like, and where the TRS cable enters the picture. Seems to me that the Variax would have to be powered off batteries for one to be able to insert a pedal into the signal chain. Seeing as there are so many REALLY knowledgeable electronics whizzes on this Forum, I will not embarrass myself with any further technically-related speculation in this regard.
Regardless of what the hookup looks like, I would still be starting from a premise like:
I want to add a lush, chorus effect to my Nylon sound. Can I do this with my existing Boss pedal? If so, can I connect my guitar directly to the pedal, or should I route it through the effects loop of my amp?
This type of question, I feel, would generate a more fruitful discussion, although I can see that it might be useful to know, in general terms, how to correctly hook a Variax up to a standard pedalboard...
Currently Being ModeratedApr 2, 2011 4:48 AM (in response to JellyWheat)Re: A pedal for an acustic guitar??
well once again were both on the same track. i would have thought the next post would have been im trying to achieve........
but the return was pretty much i dont know the answer hes looking for so i waited for your response.
as to the trs. in my experience with my 300 the trs carries power to the guitar but the output to pedal or amp is not carrying that same power . so if things work correctly then.... the output is just the generated signal
thats as far as i dare go for fear of loosing more pernts to my lack of foresite.