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  • trentreznor83 Just Startin' 19 posts since
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    270. Jun 7, 2012 3:05 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    you have done a great work, perhaps do you know a preset like not of this earth of satriani? i like that sound, thanks the same

  • trentreznor83 Just Startin' 19 posts since
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    271. Jun 7, 2012 3:48 AM (in response to trentreznor83)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    i do the same question to other forum friends! thank you for answer!

  • JDerkT Just Startin' 11 posts since
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    273. Jun 7, 2012 7:14 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    Just wanted to post here that I've recently had good results with the Ribbon 121 mic, used in conjunction with the greenback cab for both the JCM800 and Park 75 models.  I'm a greenback guy...I use a 2x12 greenback cab with my Marshall JVM and also have a Warehouse Green Beret in a 10W, single ended JCM800-style combo amp I built.  So I've been bound and determined to get a good greenback tone with the HD300.  It hasn't been easy...that cab model seems prone to a lot of unpleasant high end and excessive high end compression with most mic models.  I suppose it might be possible to reduce some of that with EQ, but since I'm already using a Screamer with both amps as a boost (and also to reduce bass), I have no option for EQ with the HD300.

     

    I could not get anything usable with the greenback cab using the SM57, despite the fact that is the mic I use with my actual Marshall amp and greenback cab. So I had been using the 87 Cond and 409 Dyn.  While these were improvements over the SM57, the high end compression and overall treble/presence still seemed excessive.  I reduced the power amp level, because high settings really seem to contribute to that as well...levels around 50-60% seemed much better, but still not where I wanted

     

    So a few days ago I decided to run through mic models again.  I had pretty much written off the 121 Rbn, but when I tried it again, all the sudden the top end seemed EXACTLY like it should!  The compression was gone, the excessive high end was gone!  It does seem a little more scooped in the mids than I might prefer, but it's not bad, and so far the trade off has been well worth it.  Every day when I come back to it, it still sounds good...and that's usually the test...if it still sounds good in the next few days, then it IS good!

     

    So I just wanted to put this out here...don't write off the 121 Rbn completely...it may be just what the doctor ordered!

  • trentreznor83 Just Startin' 19 posts since
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    274. Jun 7, 2012 1:28 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    very very thanks you are a friend!

  • anglepod Just Startin' 172 posts since
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    275. Jun 8, 2012 1:00 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    The PB-1 is actually a high end buffer pedal that I was using on my mega pedalboard, it drops the impedance to low and it is a really nice buffer circuit. The class A clean boost it has is just a secondary thing for me. I bought it for its high end buffer quality. I keep the drag load adjust all the way open which has worked out well for me. I use the boost moderately, about half which responds to the amp models just like an amp. I can actually use all three of my clean boost, compressor and overdrive and they all sound great in front of the POD and better than any internals.

    I was amazed the POD responds like a real amp to the hit of an OD or boost and my compressor adds that marvelous thickening quality.

    Reacts just like a real tube amp. You can run the gain down a little on the amp and the OD or boost kicks it up w more articulation just like my amp head.

    My Wampler compressor is just my fav pedal of all time.  I also report that using my Fulltone DejaVibe in front of the POD really hits the amp model just like it does on a real amp getting that cool warble pulse into feedback like I alway loved from Trower's cool tones.

     

    The PB-1 is the only Radial unit I have had but I am most impressed by their build and quality. That little PB1 is so heavy, not just a hollow box with a few components in there, a lot of circuit and tech in that puppy.

    Great pedal for a boost but I got it for the loading lift adjust and its buffer circuit which is always on. Made a huge difference on my pedal board and I just decided to use it on the POD and so far it has been great.

  • JDerkT Just Startin' 11 posts since
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    276. Jun 11, 2012 8:04 AM (in response to JDerkT)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    Just to update my experience with mic models with the JCM800 and Greenback cab here.  While I still like the 121Rbn, I actually discovered the 67Cond gets my boosted JCM800 tone much closer to what I hear with my Marshall through my greenback cab.  This was another mic I had kind of written off, but I think this set up is probably going to be my goto setting, since it gets pretty close to my amp/cab rig. 

     

    When I need a little more gain, I'll go with the Engl model, which provides some very sweet tones! 

     

    I'll still keep the JCM800 with the 121 Rbn preset and use it in some situations, as it is a pretty tasty setup!

  • amcclintock Just Startin' 3 posts since
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    277. Jun 11, 2012 8:13 AM (in response to JDerkT)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    I agree with you about the greenback. Sometimes I use the treadplate through it for some old school metallica tones. I also tend to us the 67mic. I have used the 121 with the j800 pre for a Danzig 1 tone.. Good stuff. Glad to hear someone else agrees with me. Since my pickups are really mid range intensive the scooping effect actually balances it out.

  • anglepod Just Startin' 172 posts since
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    278. Jun 11, 2012 4:52 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    I started using the Ribbon mic on my JCM800 presets and other Marshall models where I am trying to get a heavy Robin Trower sound. Robin said the Bridge of Signs tones were done using a Ribbon mic. I do wish Line 6 would provice a "no mic" option just to have as they all color and effect the tone. I do not always like what they do and I always have to adjust accordingly. Sounds great do not get me wrong, just would be nice to have a "no mic" option.

     

    I think I also like the Bogner model quite a but for uber gain and the ENGL always shines. Marshall's are more versatile for a range of clean to gain. DualRec is also great and I have actually tweaked in a Line6 Direck model which kills. I find all the amp models quite good, changing mics and cabs can make for some interesting variants. Even the small amps have their uses which is greta for me as I am just not the type to buy them so it is cool to be able to play with them inside the POD system. One can actually extend the tones of these smaller amps beyond the capability of the actual amp via farming out the wattage to an external source one does not run out of watts like the smaller amps can do and they just clip out. Nice to be able to push that tone and hold it it without overt breakup too soon. The HD POD is really a great unit, I find it is far better than the average user really gets.

  • Hopk1ns Just Startin' 15 posts since
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    280. Jul 6, 2012 1:38 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    meambobbo, thanks for all the work you have done on this.  So far I have only spent about an hour reviewing choice sections and I am very interested.  I have recently purchased an HD 300 to replace my Pod (the original, although with the 2.0 chip upgrade!).  When I first plugged in the HD 300 I was surprised that the defaults for the high gain amps did not seem to as good as the defaults on the original Pod!  However, I was prepared for this, and after a couple of hours I got a cracking sound out of the Mesa with the default Tread cab and the 87 mic.  Now that things have settled down I am very much looking forward to experimenting with your cab and mic recommentations, among other things.

  • anglepod Just Startin' 172 posts since
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    281. Jul 6, 2012 7:45 AM (in response to Hopk1ns)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    Being able to user define the default settings is one of the requests we have been asking L6 to do if possible. Seldom are the defaults close to a working setting most of us might use. Would be very cool to lock those in at least once to where we use an amp or an effect. No one seems to have any idea if L6 makes note of what the more advanced users request in the way of updates and tweaks as they just do not say anything about a list of what they are planning.

     

    I like this unit (HD500) and I hope they continue to offer updates and fixes. A tremendous advantage to the POD series is the cool PC editor and update ability via the LIne6 Monkey.

  • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
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    282. Jul 6, 2012 9:46 AM (in response to anglepod)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    It would be nice to have user-specified default settings. But we can essentially do this by preparing and saving our own set of custom presets with our preferred settings for any amp we want, including our preferred set of FX and their settings, and copy these template presets to any new preset where we would otherwise call up the amp with our own specific default settings. For this reason I doubt that this feature is high on the list of priorities for Line 6 (but I don't know for sure).

  • arresta Just Startin' 87 posts since
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    283. Jul 7, 2012 12:09 PM (in response to silverhead)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    http://soundcloud.com/arresta/pod-hd-300-metal

     

    some high gain stuff

    what if it was more realistic

  • anglepod Just Startin' 172 posts since
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    284. Jul 8, 2012 2:04 AM (in response to silverhead)
    Re: Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide

    That is one way around it to build a group of templates. I have a couple with the array of effects I like and I just alter the amp model section.

    It is so laborious setting up presets I burn myself out working on amps and have little left for formatting library. I've been meaning to go through all my set list groups and delete my earlier efforts and clean things up, regroup my "best" ones. You have to love the memory capabilty in the HD plus the PC ability to store infinite presets. Not to mention first unit I have ever had which let you erase and rename all factory samples.

     

    One of the problems I have w L6 is that they just do not offer a clue as to what they have selected for updates and tweaks or what they might be adding.

    I mean would that kill someone to drop a hint so we have some idea if the things we want or need are in the works?

     

    If I had to pick one fix, I would like the Pitch Glide Controller params refined to either using +/- interval settings or adding a decimal fine tune on the percentage of pedal settings. It is impossible to set an expression pedal at an accurate in-tune interval. I tend to use harmonizer 5ths and 4ths quite a bit and I much prefer the Pitch Glide (Whammy Pedal) for this over trying to use the harmonizer effect, because the Whammy type harmonizer modes do not require a fixed key or scale which is very cool. When I was using my Whammy I used the harmonizer modes most of the time over the usual weeeooooooo thing. The new Whammy has been improved quite a bit w even polyphonic detuning ability, but it is $300, a ton of bucks. So if the Line6 cats would just tweak the Pitch Glide the world would safe once again for truth, justice, and the American way. If it is impossible to get that accurate of a resolution they could just say so.

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