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drdamski Just Startin'
drdamski
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Jan 31, 2012 5:40 AM

Line 6 Link + Favourite Pedals

Hi - just wondering if anyone can give some expert advice on this?

 

I'm enjoying using L6 Link connecting HD500 with DT50 Head.

 

However, I have a couple of pedals I might like to try alongside it.

 

If I went with the following set up it would limit flexibility in virtual signal chain obviously, but would this actually work or even cause any kind of issues with the whole set up?:

 

Guitar   ->   Wah   ->   Blackstar HT Dual   ->   PodHD 500   ->   L6 Link   ->   DT50

 

 

One of the great things about the DT50 being able to operate like a traditional tube amp is it get's me thinking about having a second set up, using a traditional pedal board sometimes for a bit of fun - I stopped doing that when I started using Vetta previously, and they've just been collecting dust!

 

 

Interested in knowing if anyone else has experimented with mixing real pedals with the virtual pedals in HD500 via L6 Link?

Tags: hd500, dt50, l6_link
  • scotty_burford Just Startin'
    scotty_burford
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    Feb 23, 2012 9:15 AM (in response to drdamski)
    Re: Line 6 Link + Favourite Pedals

    I have a few pedals I really like and have used with my setup. Depending on what other effects you might use (such as compression) it may be best to put the Blackstar ( an overdrive I believe?) in the FX loop of the POD.

    • markcockerill Just Startin'
      markcockerill
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      Feb 24, 2012 5:28 AM (in response to scotty_burford)
      Re: Line 6 Link + Favourite Pedals

      I connected my Crybaby Wah to the HD500 via the loop of the HD (first position before the amp model) and it absolutely sounded crap. I am now very weary of using the loop of the HD to add anything. So put it where it really belongs, guitar > wah > HD500 and bob's your uncle. Only problem of course is that it is not possible to use the VDI cable from variax to HD. Not really an issue for me as I select manually on the JTV and use a wireless rig.

       

      Sometimes I like to use DT50 head/cab without pod so I go

       

      JTV > wah > DT50 > DTfx send > Ernie Ball Volume pedal > EH Memory Man > Eff return. To be honest, if this was slightly more versatile, this is how I would gig as the sound is amazing. I use a channel switch too to switch between channels A and B. Old school tap dancing.

      • markcockerill Just Startin'
        markcockerill
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        Mar 6, 2012 4:36 AM (in response to markcockerill)
        Re: Line 6 Link + Favourite Pedals

        Since I wrote the last post things have changed somewhat.

         

        I dug out my old JD10 pedal and bought a 7 band EQ pedal and the game has upped considerably.

         

        Here is how I go:

         

        Guitar > Wah > JD10 > DT50 input

         

        DT50 FX out > EH Memory Man > 7 band EQ  > Volume pedal > EF return

         

         

        The John Donahue 10 pedal acts like a tube screamer and does the job brilliantly. It also has a line driver built in which maintains a high quality signal to the amp. It is claimed that a guitar lead of 100 metres can be used from the output jack of a JD10 with no loss of signal.

        The volume pedal reduces overall volume with virtually no loss of drive tone and frees up the volume pot on the guitar to clean things up when required.

        I bought a Behringer 7 band EQ pedal for just £16 brand new and is as good as anything I have ever used in the past, set with a slight boost of mids and a slight lowering of highs and just a tad of extra output and bingo, solos that really stand out.

         

        I use a standard Marshall channel switcher for the amp and use AC30 setting for channel A with the gain set so that is only breaks into distortion when I really clout the strings hard. Coupled with the added boost from the JD10 which is set up not to increase the volume just the drive, then I have a beautiful overdrive good for most songs. Channel B on the amp is set to Mesa with drive set so that commanded feedback is just about there (obviously depends on distance to amp) Tap the JD10 and it'll sustain all day. DT50 master volume maxed out.

         

        Sorry guys but the HD500 is going into my home studio. I just cannot get it sound anywhere near as good as going old school but with a JTV and a bloody fantastic amp. It has become obvious to me that I spent more time tweaking and messing around than playing. I know it is a compact unit and much can be achieved at the press of a single button instead of the historical tap dance. For me, it is about the real feel and soul which I just could not get out of the dream rig. I set my yard stick with Jeff Healey's highly saturated pure tone which I can now get without a HD500 in the middle of the mix.

         

        I will use the HD500 at home for recording or until I fully understand it. I've only had it 16 months.

        • markcockerill Just Startin'
          markcockerill
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          Mar 14, 2012 8:19 AM (in response to markcockerill)
          Re: Line 6 Link + Favourite Pedals

          Just in case anyone is remotely interested. I have a new update.

           

          I have replaced the EH memory man with my M13 in the loop of the amp and sits between the Ernie Ball Volume pedal and the Behringer EQ pedal. Because of the way true bypass does not work in the desired manner there is no way I am going to run the 4CM. DSP bypass simply sucks all the life out of the rig. I can now use chorus, delays, pitch shifter and different reverbs to what is on offer soley in the amp.

           

          So my next purchase will likely be a MXR compressor and another EQ in that order sitting somewhere between the guitar and JD10. Not sure yet whether to go pre or post wah until I get them.

           

          I gigged this setup last weekend (without the comp and EQ) and it sounded very good indeed. I can't get any of the delays in the M13 to mimic the way I had the EH memory man with hazarai but close enough for the vintage tube delay with breakup on the trails.

           

          I may post a photo soon.

           

          Toodle ooh

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