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  • EnzoHeavenly Just Startin' 19 posts since
    Dec 26, 2008
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    90. Apr 30, 2012 5:49 PM (in response to tywebb)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    I'm a kind of new Variax owner (little more than a month) and.. the 6-string models sound better to me, way more usable without using EQs. Not really sure about the 12-string models though... They do sound different, but again... I never had a real 12-strings guitar, so... can't tell if better or worse.

     

    Now... for those who got 'issues' with the new models AND ALSO have an HD500.... this could help you out. Try using just this in an empty bank (on the HD500).

     

    1. You chain should have NOTHING but the new VINTAGE PREAMP

    2. Use this settings:
         - Phase: 180

         - Gain: 46%

         - Output: Whatever you use (I use EXP 1)
         - HPF: ~120Hz
         - LPF: ~ 12.4Khz

    3. In the MIXER use +6.5dB (usually I have it on the right side of the chain -dual tone-).

     

    This should help you getting a better sound out of the new models.

     

    Lemme know if it helps/works for you.

     

    Regards
    ~Enzo Heavenly

  • jasonbogen Just Startin' 357 posts since
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    91. May 13, 2012 6:45 AM (in response to ChristianArnold)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    OK, still working on my acoustic sound through my DT25 for band gigs, but I just did my first solo acoustic gig with the new JTV acoustic models and all I can say is WOW!  First of all, I started my band as an acoustic duo 6 years ago.  When I added a drummer and went electric a year later, I bought a Variax 300, a POD X3 Live and ran them through my Behringer K3000fx keyboard amp.  The acoustic sounds were good enough and I loved the flexibility I had with multiple tunings so I started using it exclusively for even my solo gigs.  It replaced my Ibanez 12 string and my Takamine EF341sc (a really nice sounding live acoustic).

     

    I got the JTV pretty close to when it came out and noticed a difference in the acoustic models, but not a monumental one.  The tuning wheel was huge, but the models were still just good enough.  With this new update I listened through my DT25.  I thought it was a big improvement, but I still haven't gotten my sound down.  Though headphones I thought the improvement was huge.  I could hear the extra space people were talking about, but thought it went away when I turned the tone knob all the way back.  Anyway, I went to my solo acoustic gig with just my Roland KC-550, Pod HD500 and Variax.  I figured it would sound good, though I hadn't had the time to set a new patch up for the keyboard amp with the new acoustic models.  I can only imagine now how amazing it would sound if I had because I was blown away by just using my old patch for the previous model and removing the 2 EQ blocks.  It sounded better than my acual acoustics sound through the amp.  For those of you going to a PA or a Keyboard amp who are not liking this better than the last models, I just don't get it. 

  • litesnsirens Iknowathingortwo 649 posts since
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    92. May 13, 2012 11:56 AM (in response to jasonbogen)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    +1, I play through FRFR only and these new models are just top notch.  I have overtones that tend to ring a little loud on the low E, F and F# and their octaves.  With a really good EQ I could dial that out, as it is I'm guessing.  That said, I have it to the point where I can just play and it sounds great, and even then it's less problematic than any real acoustic I've ever used which also have overtone issues on certain notes (plus the soundhole feedback that you have to find an answer for).  I have switched from the 1.7 models where I used the D28 model as my go to because it the most manageable of the lot.  With the 1.8 models I use the J200 because it's just the best sounding live acoustic I've ever used.  I don't think I would go so far as to say the D28 sounds worse in 1.8 I just can't see using it so much when the J200 sounds as stellar as it does.  Both 12 strings sound amazing, the Guild sounds a little better to me but the D28-12 sounds really nice in certain situations.  I alos find that I need to roll the tone control all the way off to get a nice smooth rich sound, with the tone control all the way up it's just to bright and brittle.  To be honest, even to have one good acoustic 6 string and as a bonus a good acoustic 12 string that I can go to on the fly is a dream.  Even if every model sounded equally as good I would probably still have a favourite and just use that anyway.  But I'm totally with Jason on this, I really am not hearing what others are hearing when they say the would like the old models back.  Man, I had to EQ the crap out of those old models, it was nice to have acoustics but they just kind of passed. 

  • EnzoHeavenly Just Startin' 19 posts since
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    93. May 19, 2012 8:41 PM (in response to silverhead)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    Big question, can you explain me what's your patch for the HD500 with this new acoustic models? I just happen to get the Reaper and I wanna start recording some stuff, but I dunno if you can either share an acoustic patch (let's call it this way) or an idea for the FX chain

     

    Thanks in advance

  • philGre Just Startin' 35 posts since
    May 9, 2010
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    94. May 22, 2012 3:38 AM (in response to ChristianArnold)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    Hi guys,

     

    in case you missed it, a 1.82 update of the firmware was released a few days ago, including a fix on the roominess (highest range of the tone setting gives a no roominess guitar as it emulates the mic' positioned in front of 12th fret)

    That's worth giving it a try for tose who were unhappy (and for others)

    It also fixes sone alt tunings issues on new acoustic models (but as I did not meet issues I don't know what it was exactly)

    I gave it a quick try and indeed at highest tone setting on the guitar the sound is dryer to my ears.

    NB. update instructions precise you need to accept the replacement of old models to get the new setting, so save your models before!

     

    Cheers

    Philippe

  • pugdealer Just Startin' 71 posts since
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    95. May 25, 2012 10:34 AM (in response to philGre)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    YES!! That's great news for me!

     

    I'll have to give it a try ASAP!!! Can anyone comment on the acoustic sounds with the 1.82??? Thanks!!!

  • zeddd Just Startin' 385 posts since
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    97. May 26, 2012 11:07 AM (in response to ChristianArnold)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    So it seems that Line 6 really is paying attention and trying to make everybody happy. That's fantastic.

     

    Next time, I would encourage a company rep to join a thread like this and say "We hear what you're saying folks. Don't worry we are going to tweek the update and address your concerns in regards to that room sound". It would have probably put some users minds at rest to know that a solution was forthcoming.

     

    But what a nice surprise and another positive step in the right direction. Bravo Line 6!

  • lindsayward Just Startin' 156 posts since
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    98. May 26, 2012 10:40 PM (in response to zeddd)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    I just updated and have only had the chance to play through headphones. I like it and am SO pleased that Line 6 listened and made this change. I haven't really used the acoustics much on my JTV, but I do like the change and it augurs well for other issues and future upgrades.

  • tywebb Just Startin' 35 posts since
    Feb 5, 2007
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    99. May 28, 2012 2:27 PM (in response to lindsayward)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    Just updated to 1.82.  Many thanks Line 6 for being receptive to your customers requests!!  Love the way the acoustics are behaving now.....

     

    Cheers!

    Ty

  • diggerbarnz Just Startin' 38 posts since
    Oct 8, 2011
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    100. Jun 6, 2012 4:29 PM (in response to tywebb)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    1st post - I was on my way to but a variax in October...but,had a heart attack... so I went to hospital instead!

    Anyhow...I have a pod 500 which I honestly haven't used much, I seem to have a hard time with learning lol - love the shared patches online though

    As of 10 minutes ago, I order a JTV 59 Black! - I do like a tremolo but...I just can't like the 69...shallow as that may be( I'm sure I'll be pleased either way)

    Hope to continue breathing...& learning from all of you

    Cheers

     

    PS - just happens to be the most $$$ model outta the 3 too....damn my taste!

  • zeddd Just Startin' 385 posts since
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    101. Jun 6, 2012 11:17 PM (in response to diggerbarnz)
    Re: New JTV acoustic models first impressions?

    diggerbarnz wrote:

     

    1st post - I was on my way to but a variax in October...but,had a heart attack... so I went to hospital instead!

    So sorry that you had to face that. I'm glad that you've made a successful recovery and that you are right back at building up your dream rig!

     

    I'm with you... the JTV-59 is more aesthetically pleasing for my tastes as well.

  • pugdealer Just Startin' 71 posts since
    Nov 2, 2011

    I recently updated to firmware 1.82!

     

    Guitars sound a little better compared to 1.81, though I still don't find them better for my live gigs compared to 1.71. Gotta try to work it out fiddling with the EQ's and so on...

     

    I have a problem with the 1.81 though...maybe it was just an isolated case (I have a JTV-59), but most tunnings on the knob are now wrong, and when I try to create a new tunning, it goes crazy. Lets say I go to drop D...instead of having DADGBE, I get EGDGBE, and if I try to correct it by holding the model knob and then getting it to DADGBE using the 12th fret as the "0" fret like i've done tons of times before, all strings get super grazy tunnings!!!

     

    I'm re-installing the firmware tomorrow and hope this will cure the tunnings problem, so I can then work on new patches for the acoustics...If this doesn't resolve it, I'm sticking to 1.71 FOREVER!!!!

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